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Del (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} big_bad_wolf) wrote,@ 2008-12-22 10:31:00 |
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I personally read it as a gripe about people doing the "if you do X, you're Y" and vice versa where even though you know you can't please the entire universe, there's always a bunch of people who just are so serious business about being sahnsitive to other people that someone in the middle wonders "well sheesh, I can't do all this or I'll be running around in a circle". Kind of like the pinheads during the Democratic primaries who were going "If you support Obama, you're a misogynist" and "if you support Clinton, you're a racist". - moonjaguar
Well, I suppose I can say that one person who isn't actually on my flist got what I was talking about, so it's not a complete and total failure. But it is odd that "I didn't want this linked to in metafandom and someone nominated it as a link using the most inflammatory section - ie, the bit that insults metafandom - as the summary and to me that smacks of trying to generate wank" has garnered continual accusations of not being able to take criticism (informed criticism yes, bilious flames from people who don't have the whole picture I'm not actually obligated to allow). Also, judging by the comments on f_d, a whoooooole lot of new stalkers (hey, why don't you read the fic while you're there and see how appallingly I treat female characters by writing them as funny and intelligent and strong individuals when they're relevant to the plot-- no? You'd rather just decide that I'm a hatefilled misogynist because I get snappy when people try to start drama? Cool).
So there have been a lot of people outing themselves as, uh, clearly thinking that they're the kind of people I was complaining about (I don't know, I don't bloody know any of them, so I don't know if they genuinely are the kind of people who value sociopolitical message over, say, accurate characterisation and a good story, or if they're just getting defensive because of the typically bombastic nature of my peeve), circling my journal and yelling every time I lock something, post a strop, make grandiose gestures, or generally act like a prodded beehive after being prodded.
TBH as I told Shira last night, I'm weirdly grateful for this; over the course of the weekend there has been some RL shite which significantly lowered my opinions of (straight, at least) men (old male friend/also my father apparently CANNOT LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE), and having this going on here on the interwebs does at least provide me with the reminder that it's not a gendered thing. Women are just as prone to being idiots as men, I don't need to react by charging off in one direction or another, and I can get back to writing my Christmas porn without worrying about it for much longer.
(NB: the possibility of being misinterpreted for my fic *is* occasionally a paralysing factor if only because the misinterpreters have such vocal clout and the whole fandom is a COMMUNITY deal, but it's never actually *stopped* me writing something; story > community, imo, as regular readers will know. Story > pretty much anything, which doubtless sounds like I'm trying to be - quoth one commenter - "loledgy". Is there anything more depressing than the idea that because someone else doesn't subscribe to your way of expressing themselves [ie, lengthy academic hand-wringing verses swears and threats of violence followed by a cooling off period and backpeddaling] it must be do out of the need to project a particular image? Well, yes, the constant significant erosion of women's body rights is fundamentally a lot more depressing, but as we all know it's more important to never lose one's temper. That would be ... unladylike.
... wait, isn't the imposition of stereotypes of acceptable female behaviour a fairly powerful tool of female oppression?
No?
Okay)
Actually, that provokes an interesting question. Am I projecting an image? What is it?
[also FYI: the reason I screen comments from non-friends is a hangover from the Niqab furore, and a couple of other occasions when people were offensive, other people took them to task, my LJ turned into a quagmire of flaming and I got annoyed because it was distracting me from looking for a job]
X-posted.
moonjaguarWell, I suppose I can say that one person who isn't actually on my flist got what I was talking about, so it's not a complete and total failure. But it is odd that "I didn't want this linked to in metafandom and someone nominated it as a link using the most inflammatory section - ie, the bit that insults metafandom - as the summary and to me that smacks of trying to generate wank" has garnered continual accusations of not being able to take criticism (informed criticism yes, bilious flames from people who don't have the whole picture I'm not actually obligated to allow). Also, judging by the comments on f_d, a whoooooole lot of new stalkers (hey, why don't you read the fic while you're there and see how appallingly I treat female characters by writing them as funny and intelligent and strong individuals when they're relevant to the plot-- no? You'd rather just decide that I'm a hatefilled misogynist because I get snappy when people try to start drama? Cool).
So there have been a lot of people outing themselves as, uh, clearly thinking that they're the kind of people I was complaining about (I don't know, I don't bloody know any of them, so I don't know if they genuinely are the kind of people who value sociopolitical message over, say, accurate characterisation and a good story, or if they're just getting defensive because of the typically bombastic nature of my peeve), circling my journal and yelling every time I lock something, post a strop, make grandiose gestures, or generally act like a prodded beehive after being prodded.
TBH as I told Shira last night, I'm weirdly grateful for this; over the course of the weekend there has been some RL shite which significantly lowered my opinions of (straight, at least) men (old male friend/also my father apparently CANNOT LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE), and having this going on here on the interwebs does at least provide me with the reminder that it's not a gendered thing. Women are just as prone to being idiots as men, I don't need to react by charging off in one direction or another, and I can get back to writing my Christmas porn without worrying about it for much longer.
(NB: the possibility of being misinterpreted for my fic *is* occasionally a paralysing factor if only because the misinterpreters have such vocal clout and the whole fandom is a COMMUNITY deal, but it's never actually *stopped* me writing something; story > community, imo, as regular readers will know. Story > pretty much anything, which doubtless sounds like I'm trying to be - quoth one commenter - "loledgy". Is there anything more depressing than the idea that because someone else doesn't subscribe to your way of expressing themselves [ie, lengthy academic hand-wringing verses swears and threats of violence followed by a cooling off period and backpeddaling] it must be do out of the need to project a particular image? Well, yes, the constant significant erosion of women's body rights is fundamentally a lot more depressing, but as we all know it's more important to never lose one's temper. That would be ... unladylike.
... wait, isn't the imposition of stereotypes of acceptable female behaviour a fairly powerful tool of female oppression?
No?
Okay)
Actually, that provokes an interesting question. Am I projecting an image? What is it?
[also FYI: the reason I screen comments from non-friends is a hangover from the Niqab furore, and a couple of other occasions when people were offensive, other people took them to task, my LJ turned into a quagmire of flaming and I got annoyed because it was distracting me from looking for a job]
X-posted.
