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|Monday, June 29th, 2009|
|Monday, February 16th, 2009|
Eventually unfunnybusiness will be the most active comm on JF.
|Wednesday, January 28th, 2009|
|Monday, January 26th, 2009|
|Oh anonymice http://www.journalfen.net/community/wank_report/518.html?thread=3075846#t3075846
You know, before spreading rumors, would it have hurt to TALK to the mods? I have no idea what the mods might have done or not done, personally, if I recall correctly, the purpose of wank_report has NOT been to report anonymously, or to slag off on random fans, but for people who cannot have a JF account (because account creation has been turned off) to report wank without leaving it on the main posts.
If your IP address is being logged, don't post crap you can get in trouble for (whatever it is... I don't even see why the people in question WOULD want those IP addresses, as the comments are mostly just 'I hate so and so soooo much.'
|Tuesday, January 20th, 2009|
Damn! What's with those mousies on W_R? Why are they bringing their intercine SPN h8 to that comm? Isn't there anonymous board they can do it on that is not you know... set for another purpose?
|Wednesday, January 14th, 2009|
I wonder, just how smart are the bots leaving spam on wank_report?
What if instead of banning all comments that have the dreaded erectile dysfunction drug (and all comments mentioning a certain political philosophy), it was required to have all comments CONTAIN a certain word? Such as "wank" maybe. Could the bots figure that one out?
|Thursday, January 1st, 2009|
My thoughts on academics trying to survey fandom aside, the last parts of this survey are really incoherent. How can you tell how "creative" someone is by the stories? Does it matter whether a fan's work is popular or not, or whether the creator picks the fan to work on their show/whatever when judging creativity? What the heck is "fair"? What is the author of the survey really asking about?
How our views of creativity change depending on how financially successful a show is? How our thoughts on creativity change based on whether a fanfic writer/whatever is "recognized" by the original creator? What the heck is creativity anyway? Creativity, IMHO, is dependent on the work itself, and how original it is.
As for fairness, I have no idea what that means. Fair to who?
|Friday, December 26th, 2008|
Note, before you click this, watch out, because it contains a LOT of NSFW images. I turned images off, because I just don't want to have to load that many. http://bradhanon.livejournal.com/789.html?thread=52501#t52501
In general, I just ignored this discussion, because a) am not as interested in visual art, more into fandom in general for the stories, and b) most of the outrage seemed to stem from who the poster was (a male) than from what he was saying. Disliking someone's arguments based on who they are is ad hominem, and IMHO there have been a lot of female persons in fandom who have made all kinds of ridiculous arguments about 'all women believe this or want this' for me to think that it's just men who do this. (Which is not to say that I agree with Bradhanon. I think some good arguments have been made against his ideas, especially those which claim that slash fandom cannot be argued to be representative of 'women,' meaning that it cannot be argued that it is equivalent to the so-called 'Male Gaze.' And anyway, if Bradhanon doesn't really understand what it is, it is mistaken for him to write about it)
And also, WTF? Helloooooo there is INDEED A PAYING MARKET FOR M/M WORKS AIMED AT WOMEN, mostly in ebooks. It is ridiculous for people to behave as if m/m works aimed at women are owned only by fanfic writers, or should always be that way.
Frankly, it comes off as if they made mistakes out of ignorance, and notrafficlights, IMHO, is not speaking for the entire fandom(s) and should stop acting like she is. Also, she does not speak for all fans when she claims that fandom is opposed to capitalism.
Also: "And if I think any of it is worth it I'll be more than happy to steal it off the various pirate comms I am a part of on LJ and many other forums on the internet. :) Seriously, why would I give any ignorant money grabbing lying capitalist any of my hard-earned cash? Especially when they've still got so much to apologise for?"
Wow. It is interesting that even though all of the people involved in this endeavor, except for bradhanon are women, notrafficlights seems to believe that it is a good idea that any attempts to make money out of m/m for women be sabotaged. So.... does anyone remember that post that was written awhile back about how fanfic makes women poor? XD Well, certainly m/m will never make anyone a red cent if people feel that they should never, ever pay for it. Man, no one had better tell notrafficlights about the BL sector of the manga industry. That shows that even though doujinshi can be had, and online fanworks, people will STILL pay for m/m works.
(So now capitalist=anyone who wishes to make money off of their labor, or anyone who wishes to start a business?)
|Wednesday, December 24th, 2008|
ALL HAIL SNACKY.
Seriously though, if you go through and count, it's like 1/4 of the posts are about Twilight. This is just a bit much. I would be equally annoyed if 1/4 of the posts were about SGA or SPN or Merlin or even a fandom I actually liked and followed. Sparklefield is a perfectly cromulent place for random Twilight posts, and that's where they should go.
|Sunday, December 21st, 2008|
|Monday, December 15th, 2008|
|Thursday, November 20th, 2008|
my thoughts on twilight wank:
The Twilight fans are frequently insane, but most of them uninterestingly. How many times can you behave innappropriately and say psycho things before it gets old hat? However, there has been some good wank in there somewhere, and a lot of people seem to enjoy the Twilight wankage. So maybe what is needed is a Cornfield, and people can then post only the most spectacular stuff to the main comms. (Or heck, for the oh-so-ironic Twlight fans, why not an actual Twilight comm?)
|Wednesday, October 29th, 2008|
Eh, while academics=/=literary theorists, also intellectuals=/=academics. However, the whole wide-ranging discussion in fandom has always been hampered by a lack of concrete examples of "the problem."
Thinking back on debates of the past, I recalled an occasion that might be an example of that, which I made a locked post about, after I read an entry by an acafan, which is still locked, but was not locked at the time, and which I quoted from. Unfortunately it is now locked. In any event, from what I can reconstruct, a group of acafans (although, of course, I do not claim that all acafans or fan-academics or academics who are also fans would have agreed with their positions on the issue at hand, or on their conclusions about the discussion itself) were frustrated that people (disclosure: including myself and one of my friends) did not agree with them.
One of them said something to the effect of they just wished that they could get others to agree with their idead without getting them to accept the theories behind them. Which as I said at the time, struck me as a really weird way of thinking, because obviously people would accept or reject the ideas based on the thinking behind them! Quoting myself: "it seems rather arrogant to say your theoretical foundation is so true that people should just be convinced of its conclusions, without being bothered to argue the foundational assumptions. :P "
Unfortunately, as I said, I can't really eh go into greater details as the post is all locked. But it was a real moment, I think, where there was a clash between a group of academic lit theory inclined fans, and a group which did not have such a background.
I guess there are two groups of "acafans" who might clash with non-acafandom. One is the field of acafans who study fandom itself, the other is when academically influenced interpretations and assumptions collide with non-academic ones. Obviously everyone believes their interpretations are correct, really, but with academia, there's often an investment in believing that this is the Version 3.0 and those other ideas are old fashioned, bourgeois, etc.
I suppose to play devil's advocate, it is entirely out of line for a scholar to believe that their thoughts on literature and writing are more valid than a non-scholar who has not been through that training? And if someone denies the foundation of one's profession, is that not galling? So in some senses one can't blame the acafans for their dislike.
|Wednesday, October 15th, 2008|
So what is unfunnybusiness actually for? Is it a rant comm or a discussion comm? I wanted to post some links to articles on obscenity trials on fandom_lounge just to get the information out there. It's definitely not wank and not funny, also, and there are no people shouting at each other, just information and a link to a court decision.
|Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008|
all you ever wanted to know about Breaking Dawn but were afraid to ask
(found on wank_report)
Stephenie Meyer, in her infinite wisdom, has posted a Breaking Dawn FAQ to her website.
"I'm not the kind of person who writes a Hamlet ending. If the fight had happened, it would have ended with 90% of the combatants, Cullen and Volturi alike, destroyed. There was simply no other outcome once the fight got started, given the abilities and numbers of the opposing sides. Because I would never finish Bella's story on such a downer—Everybody dies!—I knew that the real battle would be mental."
Oh noes! There could have been ROCKS FALL, 90% die!
"Well, I couldn't call her Jennifer or Ashley. What do you name the most unique baby in the world? I looked through a lot of baby name websites. Eventually I realized that there was no human name that was going to work for me, so I surrendered to necessity and made up my own. I don't approve of such shenanigans in real life, I don't even believe in getting creative with spellings for real kids! But this was fantasy, and no human name fit, so I did the best I could. "
No human name is speshul enough for the speshul magical baby!
Actually, snark aside, this reveals some interesting things about her writing process. Is that how most writers do it? IMHO she shouldn't have addressed anything about vampire procreation. That just pissed everyone off.
|Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008|
Ah, the return of Chancery Stone. I wonder if she actually does have some kind of psychological issue? Is she that delusional? Or does she realize on some level that she's hugely uh... having the exact opposite of massive success? As much as one can make fun of self-important authors like Anne Rice or egregiously mediocre ones like Stephenie Meyer, they succeeded at the hard task of getting published and appealing to numerous readers.
This reminds me of that post where people were all wondering Does Sociability Aid in Marketing In (Fanfic) Fandom? And my mental response was 'in what field, all things being equal, does it NOT help?' Seriously, it's called networking, and in both amateur and pro publishing, where attention is a commodity in short supply, the effects are especially potent. That's why in the publishing world... it is kind of important to not be an ass, even if you aren't Ms. Congeniality.
|Wednesday, August 27th, 2008|
Awesome, thanks, white_serpent
, for creating the deathwatch comm. Not that I don't care about the dead, but normally this is the fifth time I've so and so just died! by the time it hits JF.
Also, BTW, did they ever resolve the HP Lexicon lawsuit?
|Friday, August 1st, 2008|
Joined the atouchofbadness
I've often wondered about what makes popular "bad" fiction so compelling and read, while more well-written works languish in obscurity.
So, what do you think are the fictional elements (or non-fiction? If discussing popular bad non-fiction is allowable) that will save a book from utter badness? Or which elements can be superlative, but are not enough to make a book a page-turner?
I think in general, characterization (in terms of creating memorable characters) is normally the strong point of books famous for their badness. Perhaps it's also what gets books a *fandom* as well. Many fandoms focus on the characters, but it is possible to have very well written characters who don't create fan devotion. But in writing classes, IIRC people focus on having characters who are well-rounded or complex, and who, above all, develop, which I'm not sure is the key to creating a memorable or popular characters. I remember the post in which someone complained that the series had developed the characters and their relationships, and changed them from how they were before. She would have been happy to have them as they had been at the beginning.
Plot is also another way that a book can keep people reading, despite its obvious flaws. That's how serial cliffhangers work, really. You've got to keep the reader wondering what will happen next. Coherency and avoiding howlers is not that important.
Elements that people DON'T care so much about tend to be prose, and intellectual themes.
(Maybe I should cross-post this to the comm?)
|Thursday, July 31st, 2008|