| To anyone who knows - |
[Sep. 14th, 2009|01:47 pm] |
Is there a Thing in academic SPN fandom that explains the super hostile reaction to this comment? Because I don't understand why "They don't need to use the language of rape with the female characters ... because they use the imagery" = "Suggesting that the imagery of Ruby's death is more problematic than Zachariah's torturous attempted coercion of Dean" unless there's more background there. And then the less hostile but still oddly cold response to this comment. |
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| More rambling about Austen movies, you have been warned |
[Aug. 19th, 2009|11:47 am] |
I wonder if the intense hatred period movie fans have for certain period movies is related to the fact that there is little fanfic for the fandoms? I mean, Lost in Austen, right, all the changes are viewed by a lot of people as heresy because Wickham is sympathetic and Caroline is a lesbian and ... I forget what else went on there, it's been a while, I guess drunk!Bingley counts. P&P fic is pretty much all sequels, though, there aren't shipper factions or people determined to side with the villain or fic with intentional genre changes (from romance to darkfic, from dark to fluff, etc.), so when it pops up in a movie it's more shocking. Plus since these are movies, visual changes such as curvy Jennifer Ehle to skinny Keira Knightley and, frankly, older actors to actors who are the right ages for their parts can seem as harsh as a characterization change.
On the other hand, there are people in regular fandoms who also have intense hatred for some of the newer versions. Hm. But the majority do seem to be straight-up Austenfen.
Really, I only harp on this subject because I don't understand it. Maybe I'll ask on my lj for someone to please explain, Knightley aside, what is so horrible about P&P05? |
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| lol vaudree |
[Aug. 9th, 2009|10:52 am] |
Guys, I cannot stop reading the ever-so-kindly-named "Dual Interpretations" thread.
Vaudree: All that indicates is that she heard the Marauder’s side of the story (either directly from them or from someone else) since the last time she talked to Snape. So we are in the same place where Snape could have entertained the theory concerning Lupin being a werewolf before or after he went down there.
Wendall: I don't really understand your theory about Snape only starting to theorise about Lupin being a werewolf after the whomping willow incident. He knew Lupin was a werewolf after this, it wasn't just a theory. He saw Lupin going in, he saw a werewolf in the shrieking shack, Dumbledore made him promise not to tell anybody that Lupin was a werewolf.
Vaudree: I never said that WickedBoy cannot come up with a theory - there is still the Scottish book. I don’t know whether Snape came up with his Lupin is a werewolf theory before or after the Shack Attack – the book doesn’t say. To say one way or the other is to make a theory – to make a prediction – as to what the Scottish book will reveal. Six months after the Scottish Book, discussion of the series will be truly over. [whining about Jo writing next-gen books]
It's just so pointless and stupid, yet I still can't stop! Here, I'll give you a little bit more of a post of Vaudree's.
Never really understood why Ron felt more threatened by Cormac than by Neville – what do you think JKR was trying to show with that?
Cormac went out for Ron's place on the team and actively went after Hermione. Neville liked Herbology. Why do you think he felt more threatened by the former?
can’t see HBP until it goes to Video but my son said that the movie was completely different than the book but Steven Van Ark says that basically they are the same. |
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[Aug. 6th, 2009|01:34 pm] |
Maybe I should unjoin all of my comms on JF aside from the STFU and Sparklefield. I feel like they just ... bring out the worst in me. I'm going to try a filter for now that just blocks out the f_w umbrella comms (plus UFB, since there's such a large crossover) and see how that goes.
ETA: Incidentally, it's very annoying to be worried about a comment you're waiting for and then see you've got a new JF email and then it's just freaking spam. |
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| They were a bit mean to DanRad :( |
[Jul. 19th, 2009|09:13 am] |
I just read the NYT review of the HBP movie and remembered the comment that critics were afraid to say anything negative about the series because it would hurt sales. El oh el. |
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[Jun. 28th, 2009|01:18 pm] |
I just don't get some reactions to this warnings wank. I mean, I can understand being annoyed at the way the argument gets framed into such extremes. I can understand Oulangi's comment about "rape cred" (even if I don't like the phrasing and I don't think that's happening, at least I haven't seen it anywhere). What I can't understand is a) saying that it demeans RaceFail (which I've seen twice) to use words like oppression, privilege, etc. and b) acting as though both sides are being equally wanky, when there's nobody like cyatinite or aukestral on the pro-warnings side.
I don't particularly care whether or not that ban list is grudgy or an evil, evil blacklist - personally? I've already banned everyone I've seen say things I found offensive and/or cruel from my journal, even though there's a 0.001% chance of any of them ever trying to comment on my LJ. I don't even know whether people get notified when they're banned and they're all totally confused over who this nonentity is. If I want to ban you forever and think of you as "that jerkass who thinks etc.", I will.
I don't think the people who make posts like this a assholes (people who make comments like this are, though). I just feel like they're trying to be callous, which I don't understand. |
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| Huh |
[Jun. 25th, 2009|02:04 pm] |
Robustitude is all the time now.
ETA: When I hit post, I got the Sorry page. |
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| lol newspaper comics |
[Jun. 9th, 2009|11:00 am] |
The Washington Post asks about whether or not religion should be in comics. Go forth and post your own thoughts!
You have to register, though, which is why I haven't commented yet. |
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| Cranky Austenfan Post |
[Jun. 5th, 2009|04:58 pm] |
I find it interesting that while the Editrix says that the discussion (in Jane's Fame) of modern Austen fandom is "shallow and imperceptive", she doesn't give any examples or explanations. Also, there's this:
While the media likes to portray Janeites as a homogeneous group of tea-sipping, cat-stroking, bonnet-wearing, rather silly ladies of a Certain Age who swoon as one the words “wet shirt” and pay little attention to the Serious Themes of Jane Austen’s novels ...
I'm pretty sure that part of the reason (aside from simple ignorance) the view persists is that every single film adaptation made after 1995 is scrutinized endlessly and usually critiqued for being too sexy. It's all right for the Garson/Olivier version to radically change the plot, but god forbid Isabella go beyond flirting and actually sleep with Capt. Tilney to try to get engaged to him! Maybe if people could just relax a bit, other people wouldn't feel the need to distance themselves from the fandom. |
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| No prizes for guessing |
[May. 8th, 2009|05:13 pm] |
I really ought to be writing any one of the four papers I have due next week instead of reading very old meta, but it was so wonderful to come across this old gem:
See, I'm a ceremonial magician, and I don't believe in "Dark Magick". Magick is good or evil in RL or in fantasy novels depending on what you do with it. [...]
This is why, in HoIF, [Dumbledore] writes off Juliana. Because she will never, ever be loyal to him even though she wants to do good and serves Tom out of a sincere belief that he is good.
And this is why, in canon, he writes off the entire house of Slytherin except Snape, and does nothing to change their view of the world. Because no matter whether they are good or evil in the end, they will never be his creatures.
And I loathe him for that.
And I think this is evil. No matter whether his ultimate cause is good or not.
As a true-sorted Slytherin, I'm not going to say that the ends never justify the means, but what I will say is that if the means you have to use to get the end destroy or invalidate the end you are trying to reach, your priorities and your cost-benefit ratio are ultimately screwy. |
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| I am the biggest loser |
[May. 6th, 2009|09:52 pm] |
So I took terri_testing's A Gray Rat and reworked it during class today into something I found more IC. Since hers only has Peter's dialogue, I'm only showing his half of the conversations - but I found it easier to get something closer to realism by actually writing both halves, so I'm putting that in white and you can highlight if you want to read it.
*rereads* Nope, still crappy.
( At least since I did this in such a short time I feel only a little shame ) |
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| Lol latest |
[Apr. 11th, 2009|06:22 pm] |
Oh, I should not have gone into the comments on the latest Fandom Secrets post. I just get so annoyed over the SPN dogpiles. The ones who are just trolling would stop if they didn't get so much attention, and it just comes across as whiny and defensive on the others - seriously, you can't handle them? They're Secrets. Also, I finally went back to FFR and I know I'm going to end up in arguments there. In some ways, though, it's very freeing to not be memeing or on F_W and to be able to respond there and tell the person that their behavior is crap, y'know?
I was reading Reinventing Comics, which is pretty good even if I think McCloud was a bit crazy with his expectations for webcomics. I got to the section on comics needing more diversity of subject matter and writers, and the natural leap to RaceFail occurred. Obviously there are some serious problems with some writers, but isn't the real problem the publishers who aren't accepting enough non-white non-males? I wish there were some way the internet could band together and fight the power there. And the World will hear what we got to say! We've been hawkin' headlines but we're making 'em today! |
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| Yeah. |
[Mar. 28th, 2009|10:22 pm] |
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I just said the word "testicles" to my grandmother. |
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| So I'm having a think |
[Mar. 23rd, 2009|10:15 am] |
You know how there are people who claim that the male characters in X series are more interestingly written than the females? I'm wondering how much of that is internalized misogyny, and how much is straight female fans with crushes. Because I'd say that at least 75% of the time, my favorite character(s) in a given canon are male, and I know a good portion of it is fictional crushdom - but I know it's that, so I don't bring up ridiculous "the women are written poorly!" rubbish to justify why I'm more interested in (eg) Chase than Cameron.
It makes even more sense when I consider male fans like Vanceone and Pstibbons who regard a female character as being totally amazing, and the males as poorly written, and seem to have a mad passion crush for said female character.
Nothing new or revolutionary. |
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| Seriously I can't think of anything he missed |
[Mar. 5th, 2009|03:02 pm] |
Oh god, I've found another one of THOSE fics. It hits everything on the checklist.
- Hermione is the only person who sees the hypocrisies and problems of the wizarding world
- All of the dialogue sounds as if it's coming from one person, and that one person speaks extremely formally
- Harry goes to Gringotts and is way richer than he ought to be, with multiple vaults, extensive properties, and loose jewels
- Dumbledore lied about this to Harry
- Harry makes incredibly shrewd decisions about what to do with this wealth
- The goblins are impressed with him
- He may have fixed his eyes
- Harry directs Kreacher and Winky around like he's been commanding servants his whole life
- He realizes that even though he hated it when he was alone with Hermione in DH, he was actually in love with her as well
- They're both contemptuous of Ron
- Ginny and Ron did this secret bonding thing with Harry and Hermione in order to serve their selfish desires ...
- ... but it actually just means that Hermione can choose whoever she wants, while Ginny must be Harry's concubine
- ... and Harry can have a harem
- Dumbledore was actually behind this
- Harry is described as the head of his family
- Harry is a mouthpiece for the author to say things like, "The British Isles are not the entire world"
- Luna is not in character at all
- There is oddly frank talk about sex
- Harry is actually "Lord Potter"
- Harry and Hermione go into negotiations with the new Ministry
- The wizarding world is even more shockingly misogynist, racist, and brutal than you would have imagined from the books
- Harry makes Ginny strip in front of her family
OH GOD HE EVEN MAKES IT END WITH THE WORD "SCAR" |
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[Feb. 26th, 2009|02:40 pm] |
The trouble with reading Passive-Aggressive Notes is that I always want to know what happened next. Did Shelby ever find out who took her expensive mustard? Will people stop using that bathroom?
It's like a soap opera that you only get to see thirty second of. :( |
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| She says she even likes some of the Weasleys |
[Feb. 22nd, 2009|06:47 pm] |
http://community.livejournal.com/potter_cliche/39395.html#cutid1
Easily one of the most bizarre things I've seen online recently. At the time, I think I was amused because it's Ataniell complaining about R/Hr, but in retrospect it's so amazingly calm and non-hateful. |
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[Feb. 22nd, 2009|02:24 pm] |
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I would rather read fifty essays about Snape and why he's wonderful than one of these aesthetics articles. Why is it necessary to say "inter alia" instead of "among others"? Oh wait, the first one was about the pleasures of erudition, carry on. |
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| JFC |
[Feb. 20th, 2009|02:02 pm] |
I just want to give her the benefit of the doubt. I don't think she went out of her way to be offensive. I just think that she's not a very intelligent woman - clever with words and delightful with her imagination but not someone who really delves below the surface, not in her thoughts and certainly not in her stories.
-- ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif) lil_itu, here (emphasis mine)
That's so incredibly offensive. I hate it when they do that so fucking much, and I've seen it too many times.
And in another comment,
She was depending on people like you who would never think to question the text.
What an asshat. She's now on my list of people whose every comment will earn a beady eye from me. (Even though she apologizes in her next comment.)
If it were not a completely boring and pointless task, I would reread the entire series and make note of every character's birth and alliances or what have you, just so I could write a pretentious essay about people being WRONG on the internet.
... Holy crap.
Tell me now so I don't waste my time. (BTW, I was having quite an intelligent conversation with thinkatory and I don't appreciate it being de-railed.)
Are you one of those JKRowling diehard fans who believe that everything she wrote is Gospel perfect and beyond reproach? Because either you're that and you are totally, completely deliberately missing the point (you're missing the point so wide, you're aiming in the opposite direction), or you have some form of reading comprehension issues. (some formatting removed cos I'm not putting it back in.)
Oh, I've got to make an LJ post containing this brand of special in it. |
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