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I didn't hate P&P '05, it just seemed kind of flat compared to P&P '95.
I guess I like the colorful and expensive costumes and such, even if it doesn't make much sense for a non-wealthy family with 5 daughters.
Plus Colin Firth is quite a dish in P&P '95.
See, okay, but you're not being mean about it! I can understand liking 95 better or 72 or 41 (... maybe not that one), I just can't understand hating 05.
Colin Firth was a dish but I have a srs thing for Matthew Macfadyen, who looks even better in Little Dorrit.
I'm sorry but '41 was a disaster. For crying out loud, they were dressed in Civil War era gowns. Which was what 50 years *after* the novel is set? That in itself threw me out of the movie.
I only watched about five minutes, but I think the most hilarious bit that I saw was when Charlotte, who looks just as much like a 1940s glamorous movie star as the rest of them, turns to the camera and says something like, "It's too bad that I'm not pretty." I've also heard that Lady Catherine gives her blessing to Elizabeth/Darcy.
Last year I noticed that '41 was coming on TV on some point, so I set it up to record, and I couldn't get through more than about 10 minutes. The carriage race between Mrs. Bennett and Mrs. Lucas to get home so they could do I don't even know what, tell their husbands to visit Mr. Bingley? was just so ridiculous I couldn't stand it.
Very little, IMHO. Although the American ending was vile.
Yeah, I'm not so fond of the American ending, although I think my mom thinks it's cute.
It's just, I see a lot of people complain about Keira Knightley in general (too thin, wrong hair, etc.) and about how bits got cut out, but little else except maybe how Darcy was shy instead of actually proud. The cutting can't be that bad, because people who haven't read the book can follow it, unlike certain HP adaptations.
Not hate, just a mild surprise. Over all that little matter of complete absence of both pride and prejudice. I mean, the whole point is conspicuously excluded. Lizzy is merely hurt (and magnanimous at that), and Darcy is simply shy, how adorable.
I think there's a sort of Harmonian vs. H/Hr shipper dichotomy in play here - I can understand preferring a different version, really, I can. But I see a lot of hate and scorn in places like Austenblog and various Regency costuming places. I don't think I've seen anything like it anywhere else, people talking about how awful it is in passing as though it's an established fact. It's very like how you used to see Harmonians say that HBP was widely panned by critics and sales went way down.
I didn't hate '05, but I didn't really like it much either. It's been a while since I've seen it, so I'm going from memory here. I didn't like the way Darcy was just shy, and I didn't like how they pretty much glossed over the whole Wickham/Lydia elopement. It was over so quickly that we never really felt an impact from it.
I haven't seen Lost in Austen, and I don't really have any desire to either. Caroline is a lesbian? I guess I could see that, maybe, but drunk Bingley? Sympathetic Wickham? I don't know. I can handle things being different from the book, but some things I don't think they should mess with. There are certain things that just change the nature of the story, and I don't like it when adaptations or interpretations do that.
See, I feel like Austen adaptations come along so regularly that it'd be criminal for nothing to get changed aside from cinematography techniques. With something that I don't know will get a new version in ten years' time and doesn't have a couple under its belt already (HP, the Dark is Rising, Howl's Moving Castle) I do feel more protective because there might never be another, or it might cause future adaptations to follow any variations from canon from the first movie. Well, maybe not HP, I'm sure in a bit the BBC will make five part miniseries out of each book that sticks strictly to canon.
Lost in Austen was very very silly, yes. Some changes were ridiculous, but I really enjoyed clever!good!Wickham (not the thing where Darcy locked up Georgiana because she actually wanted to go away with Wickham, that was stupid, but when he was trying to make his way in the world and teaching Amanda how to be a lady) and Jane and Bingley being really unhappy (oh how I do relish the unhappiness of characters I like - since Bingley'd had a sort of moment about Amanda in her modern clothes he was late getting on the Jane bandwagon, and that meant that Mrs. Bennet encouraged her to marry Mr. Collins, and since Jane's so good she did, and then angst angst angst). Plus I think - and they may revoke my JASNA newsletter subscription for this - that it's got the most IC Darcy I've ever seen. He truly is a smug jerk for half the show, and even though Amanda was in love with him from the book she decides he's an ass fairly soon.
Plus, like I said above, I've got no beef with people disliking the movie, but there is a strong feeling of "this movie was pure rubbish and no true fan of Austen liked it" in many places that I've never seen fully explained beyond "I hate Keira Knightley plus things that I won't elaborate on were cut." It's sort of like how a very similar crowd will rip apart the Tudors because JRM is too hot and young and how can Mary and Margaret have been squished into one person?? there will be no Jane Grey or Mary Stuart!! despite the fact that the show has one more season to it and so it doesn't matter about anyone who comes after Henry. If cuts work in-movie, I don't regard it as a fault.
What I should have explained better was that Bingley started drinking because he was so furious that Jane was married to such an enormous creeper because he wouldn't stand up for himself and was making an ass of himself over Amanda and her skinny jeans. They didn't just go "lol let's have Bingley get drunk!1"
That makes a little more sense. You know, I don't usually have issues with changes in the plot from book to movie or whatever, but for some reason, the idea of Lost in Austen just does not appeal to me in the slightest. It's not like I have issues with JA redos or anything. I read and like P&P and Zombies, but this one just doesn't do it for me.
Whereas I couldn't get into PPZ at all! Like I said, I can understand disliking a particular version in favor of another. All I'm confused about is the people who act as though PP05 is considered an objectively bad movie but don't really explain why it's SO VERY bad. | |
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