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Adastra ([info]fictionbya) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-09-20 18:24:00


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Current mood:Fantastico
Entry tags:creator wank, meme origins, person: anne rice

To quote rhiannonhero from LJ: "Anne Rice wouldn't last a day in fandom, yo."
Apparently Anne Rice is upset about some of the reviewers at amazon.com for they have strained her Dickensean principles to the max!

(Scroll about halfway down. You are looking for reviewer "Anne Obrien Rice" and a paragraph that never ends.)

ETA: You will now have to click on "Next" under the customer reviews to locate the "Anne Obrien Rice" review. Just click and scroll down. It's hard to miss.

Also, iconage has happened at [info]fwank_icons.


Son of ETA: Amazon.com seems to have deleted the Anne Obrien Rice review (and the crop of reviews that came after it). Fortunately, some things which are posted on the internet have a way of being preserved forever.

From the Author to the Some of the Negative Voices Here, September 6, 2004
Seldom do I really answer those who criticize my work. In fact, the entire development of my career has been fueled by my ability to ignore denigrating and trivializing criticism as I realize my dreams and my goals. However there is something compelling about Amazon's willingness to publish just about anything, and the sheer outrageous stupidity of many things you've said here that actually touches my proletarian and Democratic soul. Also I use and enjoy Amazon and I do read the reviews of other people's books in many fields. In sum, I believe in what happens here. And so, I speak. First off, let me say that this is addressed only to some of you, who have posted outrageously negative comments here, and not to all. You are interrogating this text from the wrong perspective. Indeed, you aren't even reading it. You are projecting your own limitations on it. And you are giving a whole new meaning to the words "wide readership." And you have strained my Dickensean principles to the max. I'm justifiably proud of being read by intellectual giants and waitresses in trailer parks,in fact, I love it, but who in the world are you? Now to the book. Allow me to point out: nowhere in this text are you told that this is the last of the chronicles, nowhere are you promised curtain calls or a finale, nowhere are you told there will be a wrap-up of all the earlier material. The text tells you exactly what to expect. And it warns you specifically that if you did not enjoy Memnoch the Devil, you may not enjoy this book. This book is by and about a hero whom many of you have already rejected. And he tells you that you are likely to reject him again. And this book is most certainly written -- every word of it -- by me. If and when I can't write a book on my own, you'll know about it. And no, I have no intention of allowing any editor ever to distort, cut, or otherwise mutilate sentences that I have edited and re-edited, and organized and polished myself. I fought a great battle to achieve a status where I did not have to put up with editors making demands on me, and I will never relinquish that status. For me, novel writing is a virtuoso performance. It is not a collaborative art. Back to the novel itself: the character who tells the tale is my Lestat. I was with him more closely than I have ever been in this novel; his voice was as powerful for me as I've ever heard it. I experienced break through after break through as I walked with him, moved with him, saw through his eyes. What I ask of Lestat, Lestat unfailingly gives. For me, three hunting scenes, two which take place in hotels -- the lone woman waiting for the hit man, the slaughter at the pimp's party -- and the late night foray into the slums --stand with any similar scenes in all of the chronicles. They can be read aloud without a single hitch. Every word is in perfect place. The short chapter in which Lestat describes his love for Rowan Mayfair was for me a totally realized poem. There are other such scenes in this book. You don't get all this? Fine. But I experienced an intimacy with the character in those scenes that shattered all prior restraints, and when one is writing one does have to continuously and courageously fight a destructive tendency to inhibition and restraint. Getting really close to the subject matter is the achievement of only great art. Now, if it doesn't appeal to you, fine. You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else. But your stupid arrogant assumptions about me and what I am doing are slander. And you have used this site as if it were a public urinal to publish falsehood and lies. I'll never challenge your democratic freedom to do so, and yes, I'm answering you, but for what it's worth, be assured of the utter contempt I feel for you, especially those of you who post anonymously (and perhaps repeatedly?) and how glad I am that this book is the last one in a series that has invited your hateful and ugly responses. Now, to return to the narrative in question: Lestat's wanting to be a saint is a vision larded through and through with his characteristic vanity. It connects perfectly with his earlier ambitions to be an actor in Paris, a rock star in the modern age. If you can't see that, you aren't reading my work. In his conversation with the Pope he makes observations on the times which are in continuity with his observations on the late twentieth century in The Vampire Lestat, and in continuity with Marius' observations in that book and later in Queen of the Damned. The state of the world has always been an important theme in the chronicles. Lestat's comments matter. Every word he speaks is part of the achievement of this book. That Lestat renounced this saintly ambition within a matter of pages is plain enough for you to see. That he reverts to his old self is obvious, and that he intends to complete the tale of Blackwood Farm is also quite clear. There are many other themes and patterns in this work that I might mention -- the interplay between St.Juan Diago and Lestat, the invisible creature who doesn't "exist" in the eyes of the world is a case in point. There is also the theme of the snare of Blackwood Farm, the place where a human existence becomes so beguiling that Lestat relinquishes his power as if to a spell. The entire relationship between Lestat and Uncle Julien is carefully worked out. But I leave it to readers to discover how this complex and intricate novel establishes itself within a unique, if not unrivalled series of book. There are things to be said. And there is pleasure to be had. And readers will say wonderful things about Blood Canticle and they already are. There are readers out there and plenty of them who cherish the individuality of each of the chronicles which you so flippantly condemn. They can and do talk circles around you. And I am warmed by their response. Their letters, the papers they write in school, our face to face exchanges on the road -- these things sustain me when I read the utter trash that you post. But I feel I have said enough. If this reaches one reader who is curious about my work and shocked by the ugly reviews here, I've served my goals. And Yo, you dude, the slang police! Lestat talks like I do. He always has and he always will. You really wouldn't much like being around either one of us. And you don't have to be. If any of you want to say anything about all this by all means Email me at Anneobrienrice@mac.com. And if you want your money back for the book, send it to 1239 First Street, New Orleans, La, 70130. I'm not a coward about my real name or where I live. And yes, the Chronicles are no more! Thank God!




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[info]seppuku
2004-09-21 01:38 am UTC (link)
I'm justifiably proud of being read by intellectual giants and waitresses in trailer parks,in fact, I love it, but who in the world are you?

"Smart people love me and I'm a published author, but you're a loser, so STFU."

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(no subject) - [info]camilla, 2004-09-22 01:47 am UTC
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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2004-09-21 01:38 am UTC (link)
A translation for those too lazy to read that:

"Hi, I'm Anne Rice. My ego is so large that it's crushing me to death under its enormous weight. Please help me."

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-21 10:57 am UTC
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[info]elfy
2004-09-21 01:42 am UTC (link)
...not to mention her ability to use the enter key.

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(no subject) - [info]elfy, 2004-09-21 07:39 am UTC
Over-rated borderline literate Victorian soap opera. - (Anonymous), 2004-09-21 09:55 am UTC
Re: Over-rated borderline literate Victorian soap opera. - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-09-21 02:14 pm UTC
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Re: Over-rated borderline literate Victorian soap opera. - [info]adora_spintriae, 2004-09-21 11:38 pm UTC
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Re: Over-rated borderline literate Victorian soap opera. - (Anonymous), 2004-09-22 10:56 pm UTC
I love you, fellow Anon! - (Anonymous), 2004-09-21 11:45 pm UTC

[info]charmian
2004-09-21 01:42 am UTC (link)
No words. No words. Laughing too hard. I did not know that Anne Rice had a "proletarian and Democratic soul."

And Yo, you dude, the slang police! Lestat talks like I do. He always has and he always will. You really wouldn't much like being around either one of us.

Paging canon_sues, I think the verdict is rendered here.

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(no subject) - [info]raisedeyebrow, 2004-09-21 04:46 pm UTC
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[info]arielchan
2004-09-21 01:53 am UTC (link)
Ah yes... I remember seeing this passed around the vampirelouis list... Personally, I gave up after The Vampire Armand. I would've quit after the sack of shit that was Memnoch ("I want to be Catholic again after years of writing about witches, incest, and bisexual vampires! How can I do this... Oh! I'll fuck all my characters, and not in a pleasant way, and then write what is basically an incomprehensible religious rant."), but I have a weakness for Armand.

~*Ariel*~

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[info]melusine
2004-09-21 01:55 am UTC (link)
Her review is pure comedy gold.

She pulls out all of the greatest hits:
1. "You don't understaaaaaaaaaaand me/my vision!"
2. "How dare you criticize my work/You flamed me!"
3. "BNFs and plebes both love me, you nobody!"
4. "If you don't like it, don't read it!"
5. "I don't need a beta!"
6. "I AM SO DEEP."
7. "He's not a Mary Sue! He just talks like me, reacts like me, and has all of my opinions!"
8. "You're abusing my freedom of speech with your freedom of speech!"
9. "You're just jealous and using sockpuppets!"
10. "My fans think you suck!"
And many more!

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(no subject) - [info]littletort, 2004-09-21 02:47 am UTC
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"WTF?" icon - [info]khym_chanur, 2004-09-21 05:58 am UTC
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Re: "WTF?" icon - [info]khym_chanur, 2004-09-21 10:28 am UTC
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Who...? - [info]pennycentury, 2004-09-21 08:42 pm UTC
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[info]bunny
2004-09-21 01:57 am UTC (link)
If this hadn't had a "real name" badge (meaning that your reviewer name and the name on your credit card are identical), I wouldn't believe it's the Rice herself. Damn, that's wanky. And lacking paragraphs.

If any of you want to say anything about all this by all means Email me at Anneobrienrice@mac.com. And if you want your money back for the book, send it to [***** ****] Street, New Orleans, La, 70130. I'm not a coward about my real name or where I live.

At least she puts her money where her mouth is.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-21 10:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cruel_illusion, 2004-09-21 05:11 pm UTC
Are you sure? - (Anonymous), 2004-09-21 05:31 pm UTC
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Liar Liar!!! - (Anonymous), 2004-09-23 12:04 am UTC
Re: Liar Liar!!! - (Anonymous), 2004-09-24 11:10 pm UTC
"You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else."
[info]herongale
2004-09-21 01:58 am UTC (link)
You are interrogating this text from the wrong perspective. Indeed, you aren't even reading it. You are projecting your own limitations on it.

Translation: If you don't like it, you are NOT EVEN READING IT. You are reading YOUR OWN MIND.

This book is by and about a hero whom many of you have already rejected. And he tells you that you are likely to reject him again. And this book is most certainly written -- every word of it -- by me.

Clarification: written by her and Lestat, who she channels regularly.

Every word is in perfect place.

Welcome to the The Bible Code.

You don't get all this? Fine. But I experienced an intimacy with the character in those scenes that shattered all prior restraints, and when one is writing one does have to continuously and courageously fight a destructive tendency to inhibition and restraint.

Escape from the fetters of paragraph breaks!

Lestat's comments matter. Every word he speaks is part of the achievement of this book.

Lestat told her so.

But I leave it to readers to discover how this complex and intricate novel establishes itself within a unique, if not unrivalled series of book.

Which is really not all that stunning of an achievement, as it is the only known "series of book" in existence.

There are readers out there and plenty of them who cherish the individuality of each of the chronicles which you so flippantly condemn. They can and do talk circles around you.

Don't like it? Don't read it. P.S. You're stupid.

If any of you want to say anything about all this by all means Email me at Anneobrienrice@mac.com. And if you want your money back for the book, send it to 1239 First Street, New Orleans, La, 70130.

Or you can do yourself the favour and not purchase it in the first place. Either way.


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Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]arabel, 2004-09-21 03:09 am UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]wisdomeagle, 2004-09-21 05:36 am UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]mireille, 2004-09-21 07:28 am UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]nyoda, 2004-09-21 03:51 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-09-21 05:03 pm UTC
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Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]mcity, 2006-01-18 05:11 am UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]phosfate, 2004-09-21 02:06 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]puipui, 2004-09-21 11:14 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]cruel_illusion, 2004-09-21 05:18 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]selene_avis, 2004-09-21 09:32 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - [info]kamil, 2004-09-21 09:51 pm UTC
Re: "You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else." - (Anonymous), 2005-02-03 02:13 am UTC

[info]herring
2004-09-21 01:58 am UTC (link)
Wow. She's a professional and she's acting like a fandom writer on an ego trip. Not that she didn't before--it's just something I like to point out whenever I can.

I also like the fact that she left her address. Is it real? I'm tempted to ask for my money back on the two books I do have of hers.

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[info]shoiryu
2004-09-21 02:09 am UTC (link)
Don't mail her at that address! She'll only send you POO!

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 02:09 am UTC (link)
And no, I have no intention of allowing any editor ever to distort, cut, or otherwise mutilate sentences that I have edited and re-edited, and organized and polished myself. I fought a great battle to achieve a status where I did not have to put up with editors making demands on me, and I will never relinquish that status.

I pity her editor for having to put up with that ego.

Sweet Jesus, woman, everyone needs an editor--no one's that good of a judge of their own work. Especially not when their ego's that damn huge. Besides, it's people like her that puts people like me out of work, dammit.

If I ever meet Anne Rice in person, I think I'm going to have issues in refraining from beating her into a little splorch on the pavement. That woman walking ego makes me sick.

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