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  <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:57:07 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>BSG PICSPAM (Revelations):  Gaeta/Dee is Painful Love</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/23445.html</link>
  <description>Oh be still, my exploding &apos;shippy heart ... (Warning: Image Heavy)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_002.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_002.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The shaking reach for the painkillers.  Oh, AJ, you delightful ham-flavored thespian genius.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_004.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_004.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*SOB*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_005.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_005.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*sniffle* (Nice CGI Battlestar dudes.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_017.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_017.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_006.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_006.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He doesn&apos;t want Dee to see him like this.  WAH.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_007.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_007.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But he knows she loves him.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_008.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_008.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And boy, does she.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_009.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_009.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_010.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_010.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;much ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_011.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_011.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;love...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_012.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_012.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;for him. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_014-1.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_014-1.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/?action=view&amp;amp;current=PDVD_015.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/bsg/PDVD_015.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;THE WORRY. THE PAIN.  THE LOVE.  I&apos;M SORRY, BUT IT&apos;S THERE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think I need a fan now.  Oh, the hurt/comfort I can imagine from this. RON MOORE, YOU BASTARD, MAKE IT REAL, PLZZZZZ???!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On another note, I&apos;m starting to really believe they are the Cylon King and Queen.  Which will be great when she takes her dark revenge on all those who messed with them.  *glees*</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:19:58 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>&quot;In writing, Viscount ...&quot;</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/23152.html</link>
  <description>Certain folks in the SPN fandom want to make &lt;a href=&quot;http://winterlive.livejournal.com/410513.html?style=mine&quot;&gt;a &quot;review board&quot; rec community&lt;/a&gt;, one that will list only fics that have passed the criteria of a select panel of readers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://esorlehcar.livejournal.com/557295.html?format=light&quot;&gt;This goes over as expected.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;ve been through the wankstorms of endeavors like this since mailing lists first began.  Good intentions, blood-red brick road to hell, yadda, yadda and every time I think about writers getting their fics recc&apos;d in these elite communities (or desperately trying to) I&apos;m reminded of that quote from the Marquise de Merteuil about seducing a married woman:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;It&apos;s commonplace if you succeed, humiliating if you don&apos;t.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Not to mention how many times I&apos;ve been recc&apos;d &quot;classic must-reads&quot; that were giant balls of flaming dog poop. I know I&apos;m not alone in that one.)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See, the problem with finding (and creating) the perfect rec community is that the responsibility of discovery is on the &lt;i&gt;reader&lt;/i&gt;, not the reccer.   There is no one reccer that will be a good fit for every reader -- in fact, I&apos;d doubt if any one community would find a consensus of what&apos;s good fic with 25%-40% of readers during any given time period.  Tastes fluctuate wildly, from reader to reader, day to day and one gal&apos;s poison is another&apos;s Turkish Delight, &lt;i&gt;even if the fic is, technically, well-done.&lt;/i&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s up to the &lt;i&gt;reader&lt;/i&gt; to find the reccers that have similar tastes and preferences and stick to them like glue, not the reccer to find something they think is the greatest thing since &lt;i&gt;Ulysses&lt;/i&gt; and expect everyone, or even a slight majority, to squeal in agreement.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is why the Crack Van communities are such a good idea because along with the fics, they highlight various reccers, among whom the reader might find a kindred soul --albeit with a stomach of iron and damaged eyes that have suffered far too many indignities while sifting through the garbage for your benefit. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone can make a list of fic.  It&apos;s a rare reccer who&apos;ll make lists of fics I&apos;ll enjoy more often than not.  And it&apos;s a misguided person that will tell me up front what I will be sure to love just because they say so, unless it&apos;s been pre-determined we have roughly the same idea about what constitutes a great read.</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:55:59 GMT</pubDate>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/22847.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/&quot;&gt;Heath Ledger found dead in his apartment.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wow, what a waste.</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:25:23 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Go to hell, boyan_fraser</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/22716.html</link>
  <description>&lt;div style=&quot;display:inline; font-weight:bold;&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_lounge/641856.html&quot;&gt;Some douchecunt hack has been lifting fic, entries *and* comments from &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;thamiris&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/users/thamiris/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/users/thamiris/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thamiris&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&apos;s journal and reposting it as his own.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m so angry, I can barely articulate it.  We didn&apos;t all chip in for that permanent account to preserve her genius so that some little pretentious ass weasel could try and claim it for his own.  My friend is &lt;i&gt;dead&lt;/i&gt;, asshole.  Can&apos;t you please have AN OUNCE of shame?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The funny thing?  Thamiris would be eye-rolling and amused although as an academic, she might have used the entire thing as a warning tale to her students.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS: &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;boyan_fraser&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=boyan_fraser&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=boyan_fraser&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;boyan_fraser&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, I hate you.  &quot;Wannabe writer&quot; indeed.</description>
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  <pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/22364.html</link>
  <description>&lt;font size=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ohinternets.livejournal.com/26706.html&quot;&gt;Top Ten Ways in Which the Organization of Transformative Works Is Made of Epic Failure.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/font&gt; by the brilliant &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;ohinternets&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/users/ohinternets/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/users/ohinternets/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;ohinternets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; who says everything I wish I had the energy to express.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;OTW is very much its own tiny niche that is attempting to generalize itself as normative. Because in my experience, the audience for this kind of thing is very small; only very specific types of personalities are interested in definining and cataloguing all of fandom into neat, organized, defensible little categories, and only n00bs and fandom social climbers are interested in listening.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to make dinner for eight by 2:00 pm.  I was out until 4am drinking and dancing.  I&apos;m a SCREWED like a SCREWED THING.  Glergh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But it was fun.</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:17:10 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Seven Tin Man Icons</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/22165.html</link>
  <description>Five of Ambrose and the Queen, two of Glitch and Cain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I love this scene so much.  *sigh*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sample: &lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon3.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon3.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvscl Sark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon3.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon3.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 2. &lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon2.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon2.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 3.&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon1.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon1.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=glitchwyatt.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/glitchwyatt.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 5. &lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon6.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon6.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 6.&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon4.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon4.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.&lt;a href=&quot;http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/?action=view&amp;amp;current=tinmanicon5.png&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/tinman/tinmanicon5.png&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;Comments loved, credit if you care to, sharing a must.  Please take and enjoy. :D&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:36:43 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>YAY, TIN MAN!!!!</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/21981.html</link>
  <description>Oh, Tin Man. How are you so awesome?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I loved the rest of Tin Man, I did.  For the FIRST TIME a show did everything I wanted it to, followed my rules of enjoyable drama more or less and while bloated with a lot of unnecessary stuff (it would have been brilliant as a two-hour movie) it was SO ENJOYABLE. (It gave me that Ambrose flashback I wanted and it was JUST RIGHT.  Yay!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m so in love with Cain and Glitch, it&apos;s not funny.  I also have decided I love Azkadellia and DG and want them to be angsty sisters forever and ever.  Ahamo and the Queen can have lot of lost time sex (although I&apos;m not adverse to some Ambrose/Queen angsty dalliances) and ... and ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I&apos;m 3,000 words into a fic and it&apos;s all about the post-series politics of which there would be a lot.  Oh, and Zero.  Heh, heh, heh.  Zero.  And Cain and Glitch making out, which they haven&apos;t done yet, but they definitely should. Guh.  Yes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*pets shiny new thing*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best thing? It&apos;s a closed series. It&apos;s over!  It&apos;s done! NO ONE CAN FUCK IT UP FOR ME.  AHAHAHAHA!  Fabulous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, my new Glitch/Cain icon.  Because Cain makes him feel like those ladies at the dance.  Oh my.</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:52:26 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Tinsel!  Clamp!  Lights! Sponge!</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/21512.html</link>
  <description>Downloaded and watched &quot;Tin Man&quot; part 1 last night and for all its flaws, I really enjoyed it.  Too bad the lead actress is so, I dunno, comatose?  (She looks horribly old too, maybe it&apos;s her hair color?  I know she must be in her twenties, but she looks like Margot Kidder did maybe ten years ago, which certainly wasn&apos;t when she was in her twenties.)  And the other lead actress isn&apos;t much better, acting wise.  *booo*  (But rock that green eyeshadow, baby!)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, the men are *smoking* hot, omg.  *kicks Part Two to download faster*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;ll have a less shallow review once I&apos;ve seen it all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Got an email reply from my cousin in Europe after I asked her how her Christmas preparations were going.  She replied, like the good med student she is, &quot;it&apos;s stressful, but thankfully it&apos;s the same procedure every year.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Procedure.  LOL!  She&apos;s so cute.</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:48:57 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>BOOK:  The Golden Compass (some movie spoilers)</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/21421.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I bought the trilogy as a Christmas gift for myself and now I&apos;m not so sure it was a good investment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don&apos;t get me wrong, the &quot;Golden Compass&quot; is a good, maybe great, fantasy book, but there was so much that personally irritated me (oh taste, how subjective thou art) I&apos;ll need to sit and think about whether I was made uncomfortable in the good way or annoyed legitimately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The child heroine, Lyra, is problematic in so many ways.  She ignorant, arrogant, and so lacking in introspection of any kind, it makes me wonder if she&apos;s not borderline mentally challenged or if Pullman just doesn&apos;t like writing about emotional issues, so he made his character not care much about those either.  After every twist, every revelation (even the horrific ending, up to to a point), we&apos;re told -- not shown, because I guess that would take too long -- that Lyra&apos;s pulling a Scarlett O&apos;Hara and &quot;not thinking about it today&quot; -- even when she&apos;s stuck in some dark place and has a ton of time on her hands -- and the effect is ... sorry ... lame.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You &lt;i&gt;knew&lt;/i&gt;, because you were shown, Mitchell&apos;s Scarlett was thinking about these things deep down and thinking about them as if her soul was on fire, but Lyra?  You end up buying early on that she&apos;s emotionally stunted on the most basic level leaving every feeling after that to ring false or humorously out-of-character.  By the time she&apos;s honestly crying (again, her pain is told, not shown) you&apos;d think she has allergies, not any kind of honest epiphany or remorse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&apos;t think I like her very much, at least not enough to follow her to the end of the world and if that&apos;s the case, it&apos;s the book fatal flaw.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other things I made the Screwy Face of WTF at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her weird quasi-sexual &quot;love&quot; for Iorek the bear.  Dude, I don&apos;t squick easily, but ... BRAIN BLEACH.  SCRUB, SCRUB, SCRUB.  The descriptors Pullman used were so inappropriate I wondered if he&apos;d either had a stroke and didn&apos;t know what he was writing or if he was quite sure and he needs to be dipped in a vat of mayo and thrown to real bears.  So creepy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dialogue written in dialect ... sometimes.  OMG, WTF?  Thanks Pullman for giving badfic writers &lt;i&gt;really bad ideas that they can now point to as &quot;professional&quot; grade writing&lt;/i&gt;  Not only that, but the dialect is ugly and makes Lyra (and her poor daemon, Pan, who is the only character I loved) sound even dumber than they act.  And it&apos;s not even consistent!  WHY?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That sure was some clumsy foreshadowing from five or six characters throughout the book.  Gee, what ironic cosmic slap is waiting for Lyra on the last five pages?  Hmmm, could it have something to do with her ENTIRE SELF-IMPOSED MISSION? And her cruel parents?  And some sucker she thinks she&apos;s saving?  Hmmm ... COULD IT? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The daemons are a very cool idea and by the time I get to the maid running off carrying her hen, I was so tired of them I wished they&apos;d all be severed and tossed into a zoo. Especially when Pullman insinuates that while humans have sex, the deamons are doing &lt;i&gt;horribly inappropriate cross-species things as well&lt;/i&gt;.  Yes, my brain went there on its own, no need to confirm my &lt;i&gt;worst fears&lt;/i&gt;, author.  YUCK.  (But Pan is still love.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Stuff I liked:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The world building was clever as all hell.  A not-Earth with shades of history we know and creatures we dream of, taken for granted.  The witches were fantastic and exactly right, subtle and perfect.  The daemons were a difficult task to pull off and he does, sort of.  (I got tired of them about 3/4&apos;s through but that&apos;s because there were so many characters all I kept seeing was a great zoo escape in every scene.)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The gyptains were the best part.  Once they disappeared (died?) everything turned to meh.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mrs. Coulter was perfection.  Her awful, awful lover was not.  In fact, he&apos;s a villain of the deepest kind, evil *and* needlessly cruel.  BLAH.  Poor Lyra, even her numb dumb ass doesn&apos;t deserve *that* guy as a father.   He should have gotten his ironic comeuppance, with Lyra coming to him as his sacrifice.   I think that would have been the more interesting ending.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Speaking of the ending, I heard they left that out of the movie.  That&apos;s ... that&apos;s ... impossible.  No really, without the ending, there is nothing.  No meaning, no point, nothing, although I can see how Hollywood would really despise showing it.  Unlike Boromir&apos;s sad death that ended the first installment of LoTR, this one is just cruel and depressing on all levels, not heroic at all, but it&apos;s absolutely necessary for the story. How did Pullman allow them to do that?  Is he dead or something?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&apos;s probably other stuff, but that&apos;s off the top of my head.  I suppose I&apos;ll read &quot;The Subtle Knife&quot; but after the holidays.  I have no burning need to go there now.</description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:06:11 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>It&apos;s the Joe of Joes</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/21131.html</link>
  <description>All right, so I&apos;m not a total slob or anything.  My house is relatively neat and clean -- especially after a &quot;throw out EVERYTHING&quot; OCD binge -- but I have one slight problem area.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The coffee pot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I, uh, rarely wash it.  I dunno what it is about me, about the pot, but it&apos;s a drip carafe on a black coffee maker (because a white one would turn black in a week anyway) and I just sort of slosh some running water around in it after dumping the contents of the last pot and away we go.  I do this for, um, the half-life of the pot I guess or I would if my girlfriend (a tea-drinker to the core) didn&apos;t occasionally pluck the pot out of its comfy nook and look at it sort of the way the SPN fandom looks at female love interests, minus the rage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her eyes narrow, her mouth twists, she frowns deeply; she&apos;s disgusted to the core.  &quot;Are you going to wash this?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are a lot of answers to this question but I need my coffee NOW so I quickly shake my head.  &quot;Oh, no.  It&apos;s ... uh ... seasoned just the way I like it.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her frown reaches her collarbones.  &quot;Seasoned? You think this is &lt;i&gt;seasoned&lt;/i&gt;?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Yeah, like a wok.  More flavor.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By this time I&apos;m grabbing for the pot which she is keeping away from me, holding up and back.  Not that I couldn&apos;t tackle her for it but ...  &quot;THIS ISN&apos;T A WOK.  IT&apos;S A HORRIBLE, DIRTY, FILTHY COFFEE POT.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now I&apos;m offended.  Stupid tea drinkers, thinking they are all clean and special and &lt;i&gt;stuff&lt;/i&gt;.  &quot;Coffee&apos;s a dirty drink.  Give it to me,&quot; I say, grabbing the pot triumphantly.  Ah-hah! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, the light from the kitchen window is shining through -- okay, on -- the pot which I&apos;m seeing like I&apos;ve rarely seen it before and &lt;i&gt;oh my god, it&apos;s nearly too gross and encrusted for God&apos;s sunlight to penetrate.&lt;/i&gt;  It is an archaeological artifact without the benefit of a few thousand years of muck gathering and I&apos;ve been drinking its cesspool&apos;ish contents for &lt;i&gt;months&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;See?&quot; she says, sounding a lot like that proper English lady who sat with those chimps for fifty years and stuck with them no matter how disgusting they were.  &quot;How about washing it now? The right way?&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When someone is right, they&apos;re right.  Recognizing this is what separates us from our furry cousins.  &quot;Okay,&quot; I reply and when she leaves ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I make sure to slosh that water around in there ... twice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Humanity, here I come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mentioned Eisley in the last post (a band introduced to me by a secret in that wacky Fandom!Secrets, who knew?) and this album by them makes me happy and feel young again.  It&apos;s really so wonderful.  Try &quot;Golly Sandra&quot; or &quot;I Wasn&apos;t Prepared&quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sendspace.com/file/osekbm&quot;&gt;Room Noises&lt;/a&gt; by Eisley (60MBs)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is anyone else&apos;s GMail really freaking out?  My spam folder is like, exploding as I sit and watch it, the numbers ticking up by the minute.  Hmmm ... hope I haven&apos;t picked up a virus.</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:03:22 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Millionth Verse, Same As the First</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/20925.html</link>
  <description>When is fandom going to get over this obsession with proving itself an &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/otw_news/profile&quot;&gt;egalitarian community&lt;/a&gt; when that&apos;s not, will never and cannot be the case?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why this weird &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to umbrella what amounts to an asteroid field, millions of individual rocks that occasionally get caught in each other&apos;s orbit for long periods of time, sometimes crashing into each other accidentally (sometimes with violent intent) while others float peacefully in their own space forever, unknowing and uncaring of what&apos;s going on on the other side of the belt?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why are we setting ourselves up to violently argue over &lt;a href=&quot;http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=203&quot;&gt;what constitutes a fan&lt;/a&gt;?  Are we &lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/otw_news/14338.html?thread=492290#t492290&quot;&gt;a male space or a female one&lt;/a&gt; or something that should be defined fandom by fandom or should we even ponder such an exclusionary question?  Do we really want to be &quot;umbrella&quot;&apos;d with anyone or anything that is created under the as-yet-undetermined definition of &quot;transformative works&quot; -- a definition that will probably become so broad as to be meaningless or so restrictive as to divide fandom along untenable lines?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is there some kind of &lt;a href=&quot;http://metamiri.livejournal.com/5421.html&quot;&gt;punishment&lt;/a&gt; for &lt;a href=&quot;http://screwthedaisies.insanejournal.com/318156.html&quot;&gt;not playing along&lt;/a&gt;?  Where will the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hector-rashbaum.livejournal.com/160177.html&quot;&gt;Island of Misfit Fen&lt;/a&gt; be located? (I just want to know so I can start scoping the better parcel of swamp land for myself -- unlike you communists I&apos;m old enough to recognize the value of &quot;be prepared&quot;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All joking aside, I know that part of being an online fan invites a certain amount of control-freakishness but this is getting silly.  How about we let the asteroid field revolve, expand, shrink, destruct and rebuild on its own without trying to mash it all together into &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fanhistory.com/index.php/Organization_for_Transformative_Works#Criticisms_of_Organization_for_Transformative_Works&quot;&gt;an impossible, seething lump restrained by unnatural boundaries&lt;/a&gt;?   Fandom has always been the product of its own uneven evolution, a combination of new technology, old-fashioned ingenuity and sheer human talent -- as well as intensely ugly human foibles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean, I personally don&apos;t care what happens as I know a. where I stand and b. exactly where this thing is headed and that just means more amusement for me in my dotage.  Still, the control-freak part of &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; wishes I could gently steer folks away from the oncoming poopstorm ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nah.  Bring on the funny.  I&apos;ll be over here with the liquor and exploding cigars.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;#  Heidi K. Says:&lt;br /&gt;December 14th, 2007 at 11:39 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OTW suffers from the fact that the majority (if not the entirety) of the upper level (board +committees), as well as most of the supporters, are coming from extremely similar fannish backgrounds. Female-dominated media-based fandom (I should note that not all fanwork-producing fandom is “media fandom”, many of those of us who write RPF reject that label) focused on LiveJournal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not that any of those are bad things. But the view and experiences at the core of OTW are a small fraction of overall fannish views and experiences, and as such they tend to misunderstand/misrepresent segments of fandom they’re not used to. Not necessarily with any ill intent - although I do question why their response to “this doesn’t apply to my experience” or “this excludes me” tends to be “no it’s not, because I say so” rather than an attempt to understand - but it happens all the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so as someone who falls outside their comfort zone, I have one main issue: if, in advocating for legitimacy, they succeed only in legitimizing that which they are currently presenting as fandom, those who are misrepresented are still out in the cold.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m also troubled by their disregard for anything outside their paradigm; their contempt and/or ignorance of existing projects (I still have yet to get a good explanation why they intend to create a wiki, when one is already in existence, and fairly successful) has me thinking they are only out to legitimize fandom on their terms, done their way.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:10:02 GMT</pubDate>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/20492.html</link>
  <description>This is a quote about Ina Garten (&quot;The Barefoot Contessa&quot;) I love:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Every single one of her shows has a pound of butter, a cocktail and a homo.  It&apos;s a life to which I aspire.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Win.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;(Even if Ina&apos;s deadly food with enough sugar and processed carbs to kill an elephant isn&apos;t really something I eat anymore. And no, it&apos;s not that pound of butter that will get you in the pancreas.)&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:23:38 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>&quot;No time for moping around, are you kidding?&quot;</title>
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  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETfNxDVlpQ&quot;&gt;This song by Mary J. Blige is MADE OF WIN AND AWESOME AND PRETTY.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her hair is out of the world too.  And her clothes.  And everything else.  She is definitely my celebrity crush.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEEDS MOAR ICONS.</description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 22:51:58 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>My Happy Place - Part One</title>
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  <description>Lots of people on my flists are kinda down today.  So here&apos;s a short list of unrelated things that are making me happy at the moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/sulu_uhura.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;GUH.  SO MUCH HOT.  I WANT ALL THE HOT UHURA FIC IN THE WORLD NOW, KTHNXBI.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;cutid2&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gooey Butter Cookies&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back &lt;br /&gt;Gooey Butter Cookies&lt;br /&gt;8 ounces cream cheese (1 package)&lt;br /&gt;1/2 cup butter, softened &lt;br /&gt;1 egg &lt;br /&gt;1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract &lt;br /&gt;1 18.5-ounce package yellow cake mix &lt;br /&gt;1/4 cup powdered sugar &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Preheat oven to 350 F (175 degrees C). In a medium bowl, cream together the &lt;br /&gt;cream cheese and butter. Stir in the egg and vanilla. Add cake mix, and stir &lt;br /&gt;until well blended. Roll into 1&quot; balls and then roll the balls in the powdered &lt;br /&gt;sugar. Place 1 inch apart onto an ungreased cookie sheet. Bake for 10 to 13 &lt;br /&gt;minutes. Remove from baking sheets to cool on wire racks. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m almost done with my &quot;Enchanted&quot;, er, perfectly legal copy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&apos;s also a &quot;Tin Man&apos; marathon on Sci-Fi network tomorrow, starting at 5pm.  If the Jets are the 1:00 pm game, I&apos;m good to go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, and my Christmas shopping is almost done. My cards are ordered from Shutterfly and WTF??? I&apos;M WINNING AT CHRISTMAS, YAY!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I just joined &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;wine&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=wine&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=wine&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;wine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; at InsaneJournal.  Mmmm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&apos;s making YOU happy today?</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:01:42 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Do we have to write Cyrillic now?</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/19910.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.livejournal.com/104520.html&quot;&gt;The Russians are coming!&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;At least we now know why LJ was &quot;spiffying&quot; things up in such a hurry the past couple of months.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, LJ.  *snerk*</description>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:27:38 GMT</pubDate>
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  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://angiepen.livejournal.com/57486.html?usescheme=lynx&amp;amp;format=light&quot;&gt;The true beginning of the end.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;ve been in fandom (and fanfic) for a long time.  Over a decade and I&apos;ve pooh-pooh&apos;d rumors of our demise as easily as I&apos;ve pooh-pooh theories that Tesla rilly, &lt;i&gt;rilly&lt;/i&gt; invented a perpetual motion machine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m not laughing now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;ll be short here.  A published writer has just been discovered as plagiarizing an old fanfic. (See link above.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let&apos;s go through the series of likely events.  That published writer and their publishing house will be assaulted by indignant fans everywhere as thieves and, in a perfect world, rightfully so.  Unfortunately, the publishing house, already under assault, profit-wise, by free fiction on the internets will take their very well-paid lawyers and point it *right* at the fanfic community to protect what&apos;s left of their interests -- &lt;i&gt;by any means necessary&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They will *not* slap their own contracted interests (ie. writers with agents) on the wrist for the theft -- because that will make them look dumb and bad -- but instead they will seek to eradicate the defenseless source of potential future problems -- otherwise known as US, those writers who are the providers of that free &lt;i&gt;and legally gray&lt;/i&gt; source of potential plagiarism on the Internet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because there is no way they can do enough research in the world to make sure that their future novel writers *aren&apos;t* stealing from posted online material -- so that online material?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s gonna have to go.  Somewhere, anywhere, but nowhere they, the money-making publishers, can be legally liable for theft of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, they will make online material legally irrelevant, by any means necessary.  Which means that publicly posted fanfic will fall under much more intense legal scrutiny than ever before.  Which means ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Folks, if there is ever a time to suck it up and speak of it no more -- as we always said we would if the producers of our favorite shows stole our fic and made it into an episode -- now&apos;s the time to do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, it sucks that some pissant got the bright idea to steal a free online work and make a profit of it.  But that&apos;s the way the world works, sry2say.  We honestly have no rights once we&apos;ve posted our stuff and that honor system we&apos;ve always relied on to protect &quot;our property&quot; -- it doesn&apos;t work in the real world.  In fact, the real world is going to step on us with boots of spikes and lawyers and fire and leather and ....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*holds head*  This ... will not end well.</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:20:32 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Oh, for the love of ...</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/19391.html</link>
  <description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://marishna.livejournal.com/397837.html&quot;&gt;Proof that the &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;supernatural_tv&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap; font-weight: bold;&apos;&gt;supernatural_tv&lt;/span&gt; LJ community was stolen from its legitimate owner&lt;/a&gt; by the person who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.journalfen.net/community/clairvoyantwank/408190.html&quot;&gt;just tried to steal&lt;/a&gt; the &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;dean_sam&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=dean_sam&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=dean_sam&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;dean_sam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; community.&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s lazy, greedy bitches like you who make me distrustful of the human race, dearies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is still a certain code of honor in this wasteland we call the Internet.  Yes, it&apos;s small and it&apos;s broken and often abused, but I can&apos;t think of anything more despicable than handing a person your cybertrust and then they mow you down and take your shit once they get a hold of it.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over the past 12 years I&apos;ve often trusted people with my passwords, my sites and my communities, to tweak or peek or for learning purposes.  After I read about this particular incident last year (and it was through very deep channels as the SPN fandom is -- was? -- more terrified of losing their reputation than their integrity for some unknown reason), never again do I trust anyone with my cyberstuff.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ever.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s easy to start your own community, but yes, it&apos;s inconvenient because you want everything that&apos;s already in place, right? All those members and activity and all the perks that go with being a mod of a rockin&apos; comm, right?  Why start over?  Why not take what is already there due to someone else&apos;s initiative and hard work?  Why not take what is &lt;i&gt;not yours&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, screw you.  It&apos;s not yours and obtaining it by underhanded, slimy means should be punishable by The Great Dogpile of Shun, if nothing else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;SPN fandom, you have a lot of problems, to say the least, but letting this kind of thing fester in whispers and innuendo for this long is only going to make things worse.  The bad folks are going to walk all over you while you sit back and bite your thumbs and trust me, it&apos;s better to publish and be damned than to be poked up the arse by the likes of these awful jerks, not once, but again and again, until you &lt;i&gt; finally&lt;/i&gt; tire of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, by then, everyone will have moved to Bandom.  Yep.</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:37:35 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>The Shivers and Shakes</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/19074.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://community.livejournal.com/rarelitslash/190500.html&quot;&gt;&quot;No Loyal Knight and True&quot;&lt;/a&gt; a short Arthurian fic over in &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;rarelitslash&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=rarelitslash&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=rarelitslash&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;rarelitslash&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.  Nice use of classic themes and characterization in a very small package.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I got to join &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;arthurian_fic&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=arthurian_fic&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=arthurian_fic&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;arthurian_fic&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; through the x-posting references.  Now to see if anything is in there.  (Ah, &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;thamaris&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=thamaris&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=thamaris&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;thamaris&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, yet another moment where I miss you.  I would have emailed you about this one.  It would have made you happy. :(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&apos;m just about finishing my first pound of Starbucks Christmas blend -- one of many, I&apos;m sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I noticed that this year&apos;s bag depicts a happy family caroling while someone brings them a tray of, presumably, Christmas Blend coffee in all its cracktastic richness and super-caffeinated glory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&apos;s even a cup for the &lt;i&gt;two small children&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;the family dog that is howling at their feet&lt;/i&gt;. (No doubt he&apos;s already had a couple of &lt;strike&gt;gallons&lt;/strike&gt; cups poured into his dog bowl.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s going to be a very interesting holiday evening for that family, for sure.  ::: pours more and shakes :::&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks to &lt;span class=&apos;ljuser&apos; lj:user=&apos;noseyroser&apos; style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=noseyroser&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif&apos; alt=&apos;[info]&apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;http://www.journalfen.net/userinfo.bml?user=noseyroser&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;noseyroser&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; my sinuses are SO MUCH BETTER after a few saline rinses.  I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS TREATMENT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, it&apos;s disgusting, (no, really, ew) but it works miracles.  You can buy a can with the nozzle for a few dollars and it seems to be good for a number of rinses.  In this time of dry heat, allergies and seasonal viruses, I&apos;m betting its use would be a godsend for some.</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:37:15 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>The Devil and Vampires</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/18941.html</link>
  <description>Tom Brady is the anti-Christ, isn&apos;t he?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*squints at game*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, the Jets won. Maybe they sacrificed a goat to him!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My girlfriend is gaga over &quot;Moonlight&quot; after I told her some of you thought it was cool. Which is unfair as I&apos;VE YET TO SEE IT. GARGH! *kicks torrent sites* There is something inherently WRONG here.</description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:22:47 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>SGA and more ...</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/18614.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://invidereliana.livejournal.com/107603.html&quot;&gt;Lots of inexpensive DVDs and VHS tapes for sale here.&lt;/a&gt; Purchasing helps a family in need and the prices are right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just saw SGA&apos;s &quot;Missing&quot; and the new episode and all I can ask is, SURELY, there is a truckload of Dr. Keller/Teyla slash and a slash community and fic and omg, more, more, more p0rn with these two because they just hit every damned kink I think I&apos;ve ever had in my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don&apos;t fail me now, SGA fandom.  You&apos;d slash your grandfather -- PLEASE TELL ME THERE IS A HUGE FANFEST FOR THESE TWO.  IT IS MEANT TO BE.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*wibbles*&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(ps:  They are beautiful together like a dozen Dunkin&apos; Donuts and a Box of Joe on a Sunday morning, omg.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(pps: Is it my imagination or is SGA better than it&apos;s ever been?)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I forgot what I was going to say after this.  Better head to bed.  &apos;Night, peeps!</description>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:02:38 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>Housenpheffer ...</title>
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  <description>Uh-oh, the Sproglet just squirted a long line of Colgate toothpaste (the white/green kind) in a line down the hallway rug. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Normally, not such a big problem, but all my attempts at cleaning it are simply making it FOAMIER AND MINTY-FRESHER. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*face palms*  This isn&apos;t good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any advice from those who&apos;ve, er, had this problem before?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I received my Target online order last night from UPS and when I yelled at the door &quot;who is it?&quot; my friendly UPS man, Jake, yelled back &quot;It&apos;s the brown Santa!&quot;  The kid was very impressed by this, now every time a UPS truck goes down the road the Sproglet yells, &quot;It&apos;s Santa&apos;s car!&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Little does he know how right he is.  Snorf.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is everyone else sick?  My allergist said that most people get sick all at once this time of year due to the heat being turned on and the radiators not being sufficiently cleaned and wiped down.  They get all germy and dusty and the heat shoots the dust into the air and viola!  Instant simultaneous sickness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He recommended turning on the humidifier and running a wet cloth over the radiators while cool to reduce the irritation.  I think I&apos;ll be off doing that now. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;*hack, coff*  It&apos;s probably too late, though.</description>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:17:27 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>From some light religious reading this evening ...</title>
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  <description>From &quot;The Passion of St Typasius&quot;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Then the &lt;i&gt;praepositus&lt;/i&gt; Doncius and the &lt;i&gt;decurio&lt;/i&gt; Lucius, who had been the causes of the disturbance which had resulted in the death of the martyr Typasius, while they were standing before the dux Claudius, suddenly burned with fever and pain. &lt;u&gt;They lost control of their limbs, their bowels burst, their eyes fell out, and they died.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also discovered that St. Quiteria is who you invoke when inflicted with rabies.  Because she didn&apos;t want to get married, so her father beheaded her and then she picked up her own head, stuck it back on and climbed into the grave of her choosing, some distance away.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Uh-huh. That&apos;ll cure yer rabies for sure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, wait!  Here&apos;s Saint Pancras, the patron saint of getting rid of CRAMPS.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Catholicism,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You be so wacky, damn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Me</description>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:53:35 GMT</pubDate>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/17724.html</link>
  <description>I colored my own hair this weekend.  Since it&apos;s only occasionally a mistake, I didn&apos;t think much of it until the unveiling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hoo-boy.  My friend Tommy called it &quot;vivid&quot; which in gay-speak is &quot;BWAHAHAH! OH, HONEY.&quot;  It&apos;s like the Crayola color &quot;bronze&quot; mixed with &quot;Bozo Red&quot; and I&quot;m pretty sure that&apos;s not a color you&apos;d want in a hat, let alone atop your head.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I tried to play it cool, telling Elena &quot;if the Joker digs it, so can I&quot; until she reminded me the Joker&apos;s hair is &lt;i&gt;green&lt;/i&gt; and STILL looks better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ugh.  Oh, well.  Back to the hairdresser.  When you&apos;re trying to save yourself $190 it&apos;s always worth the risk.  Sort of.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Spongebob Squarepants&quot; is the only show I can safely say I&apos;ve seen &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; episode of (that, and maybe, &quot;Twin Peaks&quot;) so last night I settled in to watch the premiere TV event movie -- &quot;Atlantis Squarepantis&quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kinda disappointing, not much with the funny, although I was glad to see Krabs and Squidward weren&apos;t shuffled off to the side like they were in the movie. (WHAT WAS *THAT* ABOUT????)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also enjoyed &lt;a name=&quot;cutid1&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&apos;s very obvious to see that the King of Atlantis (voiced by David Bowie of all people) was based, at least in part on the Nowhere Man:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/C_1416937994.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/lexluvsclark/nowhereman.jpg&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &quot;Making Of...&quot; special that followed was particularly disturbing as seeing Spongebob and Patrick&apos;s voices come out &lt;i&gt;human mouths&lt;/i&gt; is a kind of horror that shouldn&apos;t be visited on the weak.   GAH!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&apos;t watch &quot;Heroes&quot; but man, reading my flist through LJ Add-Ons extension (where every friends post is opened in a separate tab in light format -- &lt;i&gt;wonderful&lt;/i&gt; if you have no spoiler phobias) I can&apos;t &lt;i&gt;believe&lt;/i&gt; the Smallville-like wailing and gnashing of teeth that&apos;s been going on.  Seems like the show has fallen from some great height to garner such horrific disappointment in so many. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You all have my sympathy.  The second-year curse happens to the best of them.  (*sighs over Twin Peaks, BSG and so many others)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(This is why I watch Spongebob so religiously.  Those guys could try, but they could never let me down.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;~*~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1121000.html?thread=166275304#t166275304&quot;&gt;That wank over Corbin Bleu&apos;s  hair?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Um, all I can say is, wtf, are y&apos;all &lt;i&gt;kidding&lt;/i&gt; me?  That guy&apos;s hair is &lt;i&gt;messy&lt;/i&gt;?  &lt;i&gt;Unkempt&lt;/i&gt;?????  Do any of the people claiming this have the slightest clue about hair and the work it takes to get a look that is as incredible, stylish and well-done as his no matter what kind of hair you have?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know men who&apos;d give their right &lt;i&gt;nut&lt;/i&gt; to have this guy&apos;s look. It&apos;s &lt;i&gt;beautiful&lt;/i&gt; and suits him to a &quot;t&quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or is greasy hair yanked back into a rubber band your idea of &quot;neat&quot; aka &quot;Mom&apos;s Basement stylin&apos;?  If so, Sharpay spits in your general direction. P-tooee!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WTF ... and people made fun of me for what I did to MY hair this weekend.  I really oughta to send my laughing friends there, for great justice (and lulz.)</description>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:26:58 GMT</pubDate>
  <title>New York Mag Article on Fan Vidding</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/17426.html</link>
  <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://nymag.com/movies/features/videos/40622/&quot;&gt;A feature article on fan vidder&apos;s Luminosity&apos;s work.&lt;/a&gt;  Very nice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also features two vids adjacent to the article on the site.  &quot;Women&apos;s Work&quot; which is very famous and I have to say I was *very* surprised to come away feeling the vid was dull and the subject matter was ham-handedly dealt with (except for the clever montage of fellatio symbols -- those at least show the sexually abusive component of a lot of horror movie violence against women) and &quot;300 Vogue&quot; which was utterly stunning and artful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eh, everyone&apos;s a critic I guess.  Anyway, the article is very fan-respectful, Luminosity is insightful and well-spoken and GOOD TIMES!</description>
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  <title>Supernatural Fic Request</title>
  <author>lexluvsclark@gmail.com</author>  <link>http://www.journalfen.net/users/ingrid/17270.html</link>
  <description>Any fics out there with Sam and Dean dealing with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blairwitch.com/&quot;&gt;Blair Witch&lt;/a&gt; type of case?  Bonus points for Wee!Winchesters involved at some point.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I has a story idea but I want to make sure it hasn&apos;t been done to death.  Because that&apos;s just a perfect scenario. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(PS:  No Wincest necessary.  Gen preferred.)</description>
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