So I knew that the forums at Mothering.com were a hotbed of anti-vaccine lunacy, where anyone who tries to inject some sanity is banned, but they also promote unassisted birth. That's right, not homebirth with a midwife, but homebirth with no medical professionals at all. Some things that have shown up there:
What is is I don't even...... and are supported in making that declaration because the only thing that a premature baby needs is kangaroo care. And colostrum. And positive feelings from mama.
... for example, two moms talked about bleeding so much they passed out, but they were fine ...
Do they not know what the deathrates for births are in places that don't have medical care?!?!
(I'm pretty sure unassisted birth advocates would say something like that.)