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aura218: Official Statements in the lj_biz post - This is a list of mod comments in The Lj_Biz update post re: deletegate 2, posted August 7, 2007. -- amanuensis1: And if you haven't read Watership Down, why the heck not? Go read! Shoo! - Fiver didn't know the language on that notice board. Fiver only knew that something bad was coming. What did Fiver do? He got out. -
- rydra_wong: Apparently I feel obliged to have to have an opinion - The very latest post in lj_biz does seem to confirm this reading, by indicating that yes, drawings are being treated very differently from text. But as far as I know, this is actually the first time that LJ's stated that out loud. -
- brown_betty: IBARW: On being an ally in fandom - So, when you're a fan looking for an explanation, the fan of colour who's explaining things to you doesn't know if you're genuinely trying to understand, or a troll, until you prove yourself. -
- lightgetsin: Oh, fine, yes, I'll say something - Fandom does not have the privilege of controlling how it appears to outsiders. It may sound like a worthy goal, but that way lies the sort of moral self-policing and majority rule which is pretty much the only thing I can think of that could cause me pers -
- jadelennox: [in struwwelpoacher] implied audience and erotic scenes between adolescents - What I'm trying to understand is why, to me, there is a real textual difference between explicit sex in a book for children or young adults and explicit sex in a fanfiction story, even if that story is based on a source text which is a book for children o -
- yourlibrarian: Ch-Ch-Changes - it occured to me that fandom itself frequently has charitable drives and projects. Contributions to them ... does something helpful for others, seems like so much more of a plus than to be putting change in LJ's pockets. -
- bubble_blunder: Open Letter To LiveJournal/Six Apart Take 2.5 - The newest, post lj_biz, version of the open letter is finished! -
- elke_tanzer: Finding my way around... - On InsaneJournal, places I've found fannish communities are: . . On GreatestJournal. . Has anyone spotted other fannish infrastructure they found useful in finding their way around comms and feeds on any of these three journaling services? Comment away! -
- zgirl714: Why Isn't Anyone Writing the Dru/Gunn Action? - just because you draw fan art of Remus sucking off Sirius doesn't mean that your straight, white middle class ass doesn't have prejudices. Thanks for supporting the ghey and all with your art, but that doesn't exempt you from racism (or homophobia.) -
- shay_renoylds: PR and TOS issues// - "Livejournal users are unique, that's what we like."//This is from <lj user="rachel">. I called 6A today to discuss fandom related issues in lj_biz and the recent boldening of users. -
- miriammoules: An open post about Race and Child Porn - looking at the images and the context in which they were posted, my instant response was "that's not good". Imagination has merit, because if wired in, it can become a catalyst for changing the world we inhabit. Too much of it, and it becomes the master. -
- miriam_heddy: Several people on my f-list have linked - Several people on my f-list have linked to this guy Terrible Secret and I just have to say, I think it's a bunch of b.s. Yes, he's a reasonably good rhetorician, but he's also condescending and makes sweeping claims with no evidence to support them. -
- egelantier: on sex and fandom education - I discovered fanfiction.net - when I was sixteen. it was a hot summer[...]and I was bored out of my mind. so I've started to read all in a row, and I still remember first thing fandom done for me. it set me free me from shame. -
- telperion1: (HP:DH spoilers below, though the post r - It's this: who says eighteen is an adult? It's not in Potterverse, or Ardaverse for that matter. -
- jlh: Can we get real, here? - Still: copyright fights, not just for nutty media or SF/F fans anymore! -
- thisthingwedo: Bisexuals in slash - Do Not Want? - The fact that these men are probably functionally bisexual, rather than pretending to be straight and then suddenly coming out to their true nature, doesn't seem to occur to most slashers. -
- author_by_night: "Go away, stupid plot bunny, this is a BAD TIME." "Nope."Writers have a very unique problem, because we tend to have two worlds: the world around us and the world inside our heads.
A non-writer cannot understand it. When I tried to explain the predicament to my mother, she simply stared at me - kudra2324: in some ways, it is about the porn. - at what point did that fantasy become something that someone should object to, under your theory that we shouldn't be endorsing "bad" things? while it was still in your head? when you wrote it down? when you mentioned it in bed, in the middle of sex? -
- cryptoxin: Making the Case for Chan - I'm trying to work out how to make the affirmative case (that "this is a good thing", rather than "not a bad thing" or "neutral/harmless") for chan. -
- fodian: so. - This is about me, and how I feel about child pornography as it relates to visual depictions of sometimes very young characters in explicitly sexual situations with adults. -
- purple_cube: random IBARW post - because I have no fic :( - So is skin colour one of the first things that I notice about people? I'd have to say yes, whether we're talking about TV shows or real life. Because my skin colour defines me whether I like it or not -
- innocence_jihad: Rant: I've been fuming about this for a few hours today... - It's so easy blame someone of child porn because, like Brad up there, 99% of the people will stop reading momentarily after that. And those of us who don't? We're no better than sexual predators, right? -
- erestor: LJ thinks Anorexia is a lifestyle and encouraging it is protected by freedom of speech.Let me sum this up: fictional characters drawn in fictional sexual situations are so dangerous that the artists are banned for life and their accounts purged. Real people discussing life-threatening methods to lose weight are protected by "free speech".
- theljstaff: [in lj_biz] Illegal and Harmful Content Policy Clarifications - In this post we're going to try and condense and reiterate all of our recent policy clarifications as well as address the most frequent questions we've seen. -
- Ponderosa121: [On Greatestjournal] Important: Security risk with LJ's current method of permanent suspension - As a permanently suspended user I can see the locked entries of any user who had me friended prior to my "decaptitation"/suspension without strikethrough. This includes having access to filters I was on -
- stephendann: Ah screw it. I was going to stay out of this a little longer - The time has come to make a decision. Do you want the current user base as it stands, or do you wish to shed users? If you wish to shed users, then make a stand, post up where you see this venue going, and make public your choice. -
- telesilla: one last thought before bed - It's about what LJ wants as content and what they don't. And the funny thing is, the sooner they admit that--the sooner they get specific about what they want as content and what they don't--the sooner all this buzz will die down. -
- cryptoxin: In Defense of Pro-Ana LJ Comms - If you can't demonstrate actual or likely harm, you're not violating LJ's ToS. And yes, I see where the complaints of hypocrisy are coming from -- though with "obscenity", the harm in question is at least partly the perceived legal liability to LJ. -
- paradox_dragon: IBARW (Wednesday): Race and Our Responsibilities as Fan-Consumers - What I want to talk about it this: To what extent and how can we take responsibility for our consumption? I'm referring mainly to popular media, here, not to issues like fair trade and the like. -
- sea0tter12: Barry Bonds and LJ: Two of my least favorite entities - LJ is willing to have harmful pro-anorexia groups, but they don't want Harry Potter art. That makes so much sense. Help me bring attention to this by Digging the article -
- slashpine: Well and good, LJ. Now what about the schoolgirl hooker ads? - So while we may find this depiction of an underage prostitute or pornographer's model deplorable, misogynistic, and artistically jejune, Bubbles is safe from bannation. So long as she keeps some fabric over her pudenda[...]and refrains from explicit sex -
- p_zeitgeist: another irritating but necessary PSA - when I checked back this morning (it's like a car accident, I can't look away, except for the part where I can and do decline to gawk at car accidents), I found this thread, wherein a 6A operative says that they'll suspend for linkage to content they don' -
- synecdochic: Being heard in the right places - From the perspective of having been on the other side of the fence, here's a list of things that will probably not work to establish a dialog: -
- broadpenstrokes: IBARW Post - Diversity In Writing - I think most fiction writers will try their hand at it at least once, because if you're attempting to write realistically - at some point there are characters who are 'other' that enter the picture. There is a difference however, between doing a thing and -
- femmequixotic: An Open Letter to Six Apart and Livejournal - I've left several comments[...]asking Livejournal for specific clarifications of their policies so that I know best how to moderate pornish_pixies. As this is the community that keeps getting hit by Livejournal in these purges -
- r_becca: reflection on TOS clarifications and adult fanfic - lj has issued another "clarification" post regarding content prohibited under the TOS. And honestly, the more I think about it, the more reassured I am. -
- hanabishirecca: [in fandom_action] New Copyright Law Introduced - Rep. Steven Chabot (R-OH) has introduced a bill that strengthens copyright laws. This bill modifies existing laws to make it possible for you to be charged criminally for copyright infringement and increases the penalty for such infringements. -
- minnow1212: ibarw: announcement, coc squee (Smash Williams), vids with coc - The juxtaposition of IBARW and VVC triggered a thought: if you were putting together a vidshow featured around characters of color, what vids would you consider putting in? -
- schemingreader: If you have been hiding under a rock and don't know the deal with LJ... - You can lose your access to services you paid for on LJ because their committee decides that a single post is obscene. (Or pornographic, but they don't actually know the legal difference, and anyway this isn't about legality, it's about what they think.) -
- yhlee: IBARW: Virtual integration; race and TV. - Look, I understand the desire to have a favorite show be, well, flawless. Angel is my favorite show. But Angel is chock full of flaws, and its handling of race (consider Gunn's arc, especially a certain questionable development in S5) is one of the bigges -
- blue_soaring: Holy crap! - ponderosa121 is actually completely obliterated from LJ. All the comments she ever made in my LJ are gone, all the posts and comments she made in the communities I know she was in, they're gone too. Completely. -
- insomnia: And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. - Looks like Brad is leaving LJ... to the wolves. //He tries to reassure us by saying "LiveJournal's in good hands -- I'm not worried about it."//Except, of course, that he doesn't really believe that. He knows LJ is dying -
- p_zeitgeist: Why I'm supporting migration. - The new communication and creative tools available to all of us have opened up the whole world to us, metaphorically speaking. There are still would-be gatekeepers, who want to keep us all within the gates; the new tools have enabled us to bypass them. Th -
- witchqueen: News & Notes - When I hear the word 'wank' applied to mediafandom meta discussion, I understand it to dismiss the discussion in question not only on the basis of it being too loud and emotional for the dismisser to participate, but also on the idea that the issue at han -
- brown_betty: je ne veux pas être complice - If someone pointing out your public actions, not to lj abuse, or citizens for public decency, but to their friends-list, is "threatening" to you, then maybe you should ask yourself what that means about those actions. -
- alyburns: Confused, but with ideas - I think it's time to flood LJ with letters - literally. Go to every site they offer for comments: -
- alyburns: Anyone surprised by the following? - Below you'll find LJ's response to one of my many posts at their various sites, this one more specifically around the abuse report button on every post (you'll also see that they added my post to the end of theirs: -
- measi: Meta thoughts on LiveJournal and fandom - In this case, since itâ™s appropriate, the artist can create whatever art, written or visual, that (s)he wants. BUT â“ others, including the company that owns the servers where the art is posted have every right to respond. -
- bubble_blunder: An Open Letter To LiveJournal and Six Apart.... - We are all users of your service. We came here for a variety of reasons. We stayed because we like it here, and because we put a lot of time and energy into building and maintaining a community here. We honestly don't want to leave -
- missscarlett: [in fanficrants] I really think people worry far too much about Mary SuesGenuine Mary Sues are horrible, true. But people who prevent themselves from creating and using possibly very interesting characters just because they might have a few Mary Sue elements is really ticking me off.
- jmtorres: An exercise - Fandom, we sound like the crazy people.//This is not to say that we are crazy or wrong. This it to say that our arguments need to be reworded/.../, because right now, to the non-fannish, what's going on here makes us look like the bad guys. -
- oceana_: Grrr. Argh. - We all know that all the sites that everyone is so excited about moving to will have and implement the same policies LJ is implementing now. There is no sign that they will be any clearer on what exactly is against their policy. -
- liz_marcs: Here Are My Thots...Let Me Show You Them - Here's my actual problem with 6A/LJ://Bad customer service.//No, seriously. There it is. -
- gmth: In which I show that one is never to old to be a starry-eyed optimist from time to time - At the same time, I do kind of regret it because it turns out the comm is an RP type of thing (there was no way for newbies like me to know this before it was pointed out, since the userinfo is absolutely blank) and from what I understand you are also on -
- trollprincess: Oh, LJ, you so crazy. - We want to know. Anyone who's not a complete troll would like to follow the goddamn rules. There's just one small problem -- YOU HAVE TO TELL US WHAT THEY ARE. -
- shusu: LJ: an actual slice of opinion - So, as a customer of LJ, here is my problem with all this. -
- kaethe: Thoughts on protecting the porn - The prevailing fandom opinion seems to be in support of artwork that condones a 40 year old man sucking off a fifteen year old boy. -
- karamarie_mckay: untitled - General Perceptions, and How Manipulation Works -
- justhuman: Fandom: Locked Communities - Lockdown is not necessarily a solution to everything, but many communities are opting for it. If you're running a community that you plan on locking down, here are some facts you might find useful... -
- telesilla: It's not that I WANT to leave - So this isn't about fucking "kiddie porn," people. It's about some LJ employee or maybe even a volunteer with unknown credentials[...]looking at a picture and saying "I think it's trash." -
- madsciencechick: Strikethrough 2007 Fallout: Part II - The issue is that LJ is a providing a service to us on the condition that they can cease to do so at any time, for any reason, with no justification or notification whatsoever. That's just how it is. Those are, in fact, the terms of service. -
- pyrop: LiveJournal is shrinking. In new faux-academic style! - LiveJournal is shrinking, at least in terms of active accounts. The number of active accounts reached its peak in April of 2005, and has been decreasing ever since then. Let's take a look at the graphs. -
- rivkat: Not done yet, apparently - So we're supposed to desire them -- bluntly, we're supposed to fantasize about fucking them -- but we're not supposted to say that. And we're not supposed to share our fantasies, because that would be sick. -
- cryptoxin: In defense of burr86 - I'm not particularly invested in defending LJ. I can't argue that they've been a paragon of corporate communication throughout all of this. Then again, I wouldn't argue that fandom-in-general has consistently excelled at communicating back to LJ effective -
- coffeeandink: Brief notes on Boldthrough '07 (notes towards an open letter to LJ) - The basic argument seems to be that, although the art is defensible under U.S. law, LJ should self-police to prevent the law from stepping in. -
- wilderthan: Musing: Strikethrough/Boldout - My thoughts on... - They are no one thing. They are people who are unhappy at what has happened and that is all there is to it. They do not all like chan, they do not all like ponderosa121 or elaboration, they're not even all from fandom. They are just people who want to be -
- penknife: On friends-locking, risk reduction, and shame - LJ can ban the kind of stories I write, and they can make this a space that's so hostile to adult content that I think fandom would be better off moving. But LJ can't make me ashamed of what I write or what I read, or of wanting a space that's friendly to -
- everagaby: Because a simple life update just isn't my style. - First, and most important, I feel the need to state that implementation of the Miller Test in order to prevent or at least limit the creation and public distribution of exploitative works, specifically child pornography, is a noble idea. -
- laurashapiro: IBARW/The Kids Are All Right: Youth Media - In my own curating for the vidding genre, I am doing everything I can to ensure that characters of color are onscreen, that artists of color are heard, and that vidders of color are showcased. -
- bad_goth: IBARW: Because I like linking to things. - There's a tendency that geeks have, when questioned on something racist, to say that they can't be racist. [...] Because they're oppressed - because the rest of the world thinks they're nerdy for liking comic books, or anime, or roleplaying, etc. -
- lone_gunfreak: (re-working of an old rant, to post on m - I'm just so baffled by the majority of responses I've seen, because it seems like people are way more into the idea of being "OMG oppressed!!!" than they are in actually doing anything. -
- savemoony: Obligatory Fandom Post - If you haven't witnessed your f-list explode in outraged[...] then you missed¦ a familiar tell of tragedy and betrayal thats been played out on the same stages, by the same actors, more times than the Royal Shakespeare Company has performed Hamlet. -
- elle_torrence: [in fan_essays] Literary Merit for Dummies - While itâ™s true that any piece of writing (and art as well, but weâ™re sticking to literature alone in this essay; donâ™t want it to be too challenging for the Dummies) can be defended as having literary merit, it seems clear that some people might re -
- erestor: Meta: LJ - it's not about the kids - it's about us."If you're upset about the recent bannings on LJ, you're supporting kiddie porn!" Oh. Is that the same as "if you don't support the war in Iraq, you're a communist?" Funny how propaganda always works the same way, isn't it.
- lavendertook: WTF, LJ? - are we dealing with sexism? Since all women are supposed to look like they are 16-25, is LJ's problem here with the depiction of a male as subject of a female gaze, and charges of underaged depiction being used to cover this, -
- verstehen: Language and Speech Patterns - Those female language patterns are reinforced over and over by the other members of fandom itself. Case in point: [info]witchqueen's inability to simply just say âœthis is a racist termâ without people . . . forcing her to qualify, qualify, qualify. -
- pirate_eggie: [in efw] POST DETAILING HOW IMPORTANT THE OP'S AD - Included in these links for burr86's remarks in comments -- p.z. -
- astolat: journaling alternatives - I do have some thoughts about journaling alternatives myself, that I think might be valuable to others who are considering putting one together, but I want to emphasize that this is my own personal rambling, and not something from the organization. -
- astolat: [in fanarchive] brief update - Just a quick heads-up and to apologize for the radio silence: -
- minotaurs: For I contain multitudes... - Instead of just one journal service for everyone, how about a site that concatenates *all* journal services? -
- atrata: [in fandom_flies] For a variety of reasons, I think it is - For a variety of reasons, I think it is time to start talking very seriously about fandom's exodus from LJ. I don't think this is the space really discuss the whys; those have been done to death. -
- cm_fandom: How-To / How-Not-To / Vidding Poll - I'm looking for information from vidders from all different skill levels to respond to this. -
- jelynne: Taking a step back to get a better look - From outside Fandom, pornish_pixies looks like itâ™s all about pornographic material involving children. Nor does a skim of the community information or front-page entries do anything to prove otherwise. Thatâ™s it. Thatâ™s where the persecution begins -
- antennapedia: Extracting LJ entries into local files, OS X edition - This tool will a) back up locally, and b) optionally migrate your posts. -
- slytherincess: Two Knuts - I disagree, though, with the reactionary suggestions for a mass exodus to another blogging site. The big bitch of freedom of speech is that it goes both ways -- people have the right to voice opinions other than ours, and Six Apart is not obligated to the -
- ignazwisdom: Not!Meta: got a bee in my bonnet about community lockdowns - For the second time now, a moderator of a very small community I'm in for a very small fandom -- the main community for that fandom -- has announced a new policy, in response to LiveJournal's suspension hijinks, of forcing all members to lock any posts th -
- oulangi: Class act, LJ, all the way! - If you want to use us, your LJ customer base, to raise money for your pet causes, fine. But at the VERY LEAST you should have acknowledged these links, instead of painting this as altruism on your parts. It's shady. -
- sapphoq: El Jay does it again - I usually don't mind following the rules if I know what they are and if they are somewhat sensible. -
- msilverstar: LJ doesn't want us. Time to make other plans. - I've come to believe that LJ doesn't want to deal with sexuality and those parts of fandom that are sexually explicit. -
- rushin_doll: Where is all the concrit? I blame computer programmers - The problem is pretty simple: thanks to history, we're used to thinking of text as a static entity, especially when the concept of "publishing" gets tossed around. -
- femmequixotic: [in pornish_pixies] UPDATE - Okay, I just got this email from Abuse. -
- jupiter_star: An open letter to Livejournal - Over the next few days, I want to collect a list of contradictory statements that LiveJournal and SixApart have posted regarding the Strikethrough '07 debacle. -
- wistfuljane: My correspondence with LJ clears somethings, but fails to allay my concerns.Yesterday I sent an e-mail to LiveJournal at feedback@livejournal about the recent suspensions:
- mmmchelle: I hear they were protecting kids in Salem, too - For me, the implication that a group of people are subhuman has been one of the most disturbing partss of the discussions that have sprung up around child pornography and pedophilia in the wake of the journal deletions. -
- fandrogyny: There's something happening here... - I think fandom has a huge opportunity here to do something very special and important. We can build our own house, designate our own playspace. We can evolve. Personally, I'm tickled by the idea of fandom owning its space and operating in its personal, no -
- caras_galadhon: The Omega Fan, or The Sky Remains Above Us, Madame Little-- - I hate that fandom's first response to every crisis is to scream its fool head off, stomp its patent leathers and threaten to hold its breath until it turns blue. -
- morgandawn: OMG She's At It Again! Stop With The Meta (Boldthrough 07) - So in conclusion: poke LJ with a sharp stick. Donate to the ACLU and the EFF. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive. -
- jadelennox: make a change that matters - 6A are incompetent at communication, customer service, and consistency, but they are reacting in fear of very real demons. Give a little money to the people who successfully fight those demons, who fight DOPA, COPA, CIPA, COPPA, and all the rest of the ma -
- penknife: Penknife's adventures in backing up - I've always avoided LJ archiving tools in the past, because I'd heard anecdotal reports of their causing loss of entries. I can't guarantee that if you try either or both of these tools, your journal will not catch fire or explode, but I can tell you what -
- liz_marcs: up, LJ really did tell us to drop dead... - What happens when you get that one guy/gal on LJAbuse who doesn't give a shit about ages, but the fact that you've got a same-sex pairing and that's all the excuse they need? Or what if you got someone who thinks that all pr0n should be FLocked (I don't j -
- lori: Livejournal's official response to the journal deletions - Now, the part that gets me - is where they said the art had no artistic value. -
- bubble_blunder: Breaking News.... - Well it is official. LJ has now officially designated the members of The Thought Police, and determined which members of the "community" get to be the ones to decide what does and does not meet the definition of obscenity using The Miller Test. -
- brynwulf: Guys! I have things to say!! - yeah, yeah, we love LJ/we hate LJ, but we don't want to leave LJ? My god, we're a lazy bunch!! -
- umbo: more on the stuff going on - I'm sorry, folks, but there is no way whatsoever that someone can argue they should have the right to post that under the LJ TOS, or that it wasn't completely clear that such an image was against LJ's standards of acceptability. -
- gmth: Well, shit. Now I'm really torn. - So fandom's constant threats to migrate are, IMO, pretty ridiculous if the idea is to somehow force LJ to change the way it does business. -
- rivkat: Law like love - Depictions that aren't pictures or video of actual minors are judged by the standards for obscenity, not child porn. It is true that the moral panic doesn't distinguish between those, so what the law actually says is not the end of the matter. -
- harriet_spy: Small PSA - So I wrote a polite email to the JF mods, asking them to delete that comment or at least remove "[my full name]" from the comment. They refused, for a variety of reasons, of which the one they finally settled on was that "[my full name]" might also be a p -
- kalpurna: Boldthrough '07: Uh, we're child molesters? Again? - Given Boldthrough '07, I think we should talk about legal issues regarding underage characters. NOTE THAT I AM NOT A LAWYER. -
- bottle_of_shine: Fandom: active players, lurkers, and how kneejerk lockdowns hurt communities - Locking down all fic because of attacks on other fic/art with different themes is hard for lurkers. [...] We're a varied bunch, there's no "right" way to be. -
- daf9: NIMBY - In the first place, miscegenation, while it may have been coined to describe a hateful concept (that whites and blacks shouldn't intermarry because blacks are inferior) is a word that literally means "racial mixing". -
- fabu: Same song, 32nd verse - Yes, the legal concerns will follow us whereever we go, but I have hopes that other journaling services will handle those concerns with more grace: communicating the TOS clearly and without frequent changes and backtracking -
- wilde_stallyn: LJ "Acceptable Content" Test Case - LJ draws a line - ari_o's test case was a good example of a pretty average Snarry PWP, it didn't tell us where lj was going to draw the line. I'm a kinky fuck, and I wanted to know what would happen to a borderline case -
- toft_froggy: Some things - Where is it going to stop? Are we all going to sit here, watching sections of the fandom be pushed out to live on their own somewhere else, and pretend it doesn't have anything to do with us? -
- icarusancalion: Very Basic Growth Rate Stats: Stargate Atlantis and other fandoms. - We can use fanfiction as a benchmark for how popular the Stargate Atlantis fandom is compared to other fandoms. My statistics are taken from fanfiction.net, the largest fanfiction online archive -
- amireal: It's like we speak a different language. - I've been mulling over the whole d_d affair and thinking about my own feelings on the subject.//This is the first race debate I felt like I understood more than the basic principle. -
- shaggirl: Fandom: Undesirable Number One - Word is getting out that Live Journal just suspended two Harry Potter artists, elaboration and ponderosa121, presumably for "questionable content" in their artwork. Elaboration's journal was completely flocked. -
- blue_soaring: WHERE DID MY EVIL TWIN GO!?she's not strkethrough'ed, just... de-LJ'd (ponderosa121), but she's very definitely suspended.
//Apparently, she's been suspended over a drawing posted on pornish_pixies cited to contain "minors in explicit sexual situations." - imaginarycircus: [in innocence_jihad] Christ on a Cracker - LJ/6A strikes again - HP fandom artists are being suspended. No confirmation as to why - but we are guessing it is the new LJ abuse policies? -
- teaphile: Fans and fandom: two different thingsDear Fandom,
When you're talking about a show that's a mainstream hit--like House or Heroes--you have to understand that online fandom does not represent the majority of fans - fashes: Clarity makes the world go round - Yes being in fandom means having to deal with a certain amount of wank. And let's face it. Harry Potter always winz at wank.[...]//But wank stops becoming wank when its made of legitimate concerns. -
- amireal: LJ/6A - Before we all panic, and I'm not saying it's not a good idea to keep an ear out--//I'm seeing two different stories. First that it was the underage aspect. But I've found at least two people saying it was Warner Bros that actually complained. -
- pfeffermuse: Fandom: Who Am I in an Anonymous World? - We'd all like to believe the best about ourselves, but what if I'm not at my best? If words are the only thing by which you can judge me, how do I know if what I'm saying isn't somehow tainted by something I'm not even aware of? How do you know me? How do -
- princessofg: white liberal flailing, "ghetto passes," Teal'c - Writing about Sateda or Athos or the Jaffa as themselves is hard enough. Writing while thinking about how what we are saying looks when held up against USA or Western culture? Now, that's really hard, to be that aware and to have transcended your own pers -
- baffled_fandom: Babbbling about Authorial intent - I am firmly, firmly of the opinion that the minute a text (text in this usage meaning source material) becomes available to me in it's finished form then the author's opinions are no more valid than the average internet Joe's. -</div>
- Ponderosa121 : [on GreatestJournal] Ancient icon, oddly appropriate! - I am considering taking my toys and making my own sandbox. And by that I mean using the open source version of LJ and my anarchist sensibilities to start up a fan-friendly journalling space with the goals of making sure that your information is yours as o -
- fauxglass: [on GreatestJournal] Wow. - ...there's the notice from LJ abuse (as well as a dozen concerned notes from friends) , with happy tidings of Permanent Suspension....No where in the post ...are the characters ages mentioned, and I certainly never suggested that they are underage. -
- bookshop: untitled - Livejournal is suspending fan artists for questionable content, some of whom had completely locked journals. -
- xylodemon: 6A -- causing separation anxiety since 2007 - I could move house. That doesn't mean I want to. //Here and now, I've got something I don't have anywhere else: friends. Here and now, I'm a member of a community. For me, fandom isn't all about the fic and art and meta and whatnot. -
- boji: The cyber dance of the seven veils - If in the near future fandom and fanfic are hounded while sites like Nifty and Asstr.org are left well enough alone, it will lead me to believe that this was just as much about copyright infringement as about porn. -
- morganmuffle: So I wasn't going to post about this aga - The reason I can't get angry at LJ/6A is probably because I can see what a crappy position they're in, and I think there are places my anger is being diverted to, which doesn't mean I like what they're doing. I really really don't. -
- ladysorka: *headdesks*So, LJ is apparently deleting - I wish LJ would just flat-out tell us they wanted us gone. Then we could actually just leave. -
- danamaree: i don't hate americans, I just find them challenging at times - I ask a question, have you found yourself assuming that a person you've come across on a forum, whether it be on LJ or anywhere else is by default American? I have. Because english speaking fandom, and non-English fandom is dominated by American fans. -
- onelittlesleep: Fandom Migration Poll: Other Options - There are several options for off-lj journaling tools. We should have a consensus to which people prefer. Please leave in the comments practical reasons why you prefer this tool above others -
- bubble_blunder: And here we go again.... - I am convinced that this is just the beginning. Either LJ/6A have decided that we aren't welcome here and want to force us out as quietly as possible to avoid bad press, or[...]they figure that they can do whatever they like cos we will never leave. -
- stewardess: Ponderosa Is The Latest Victim of 6A's Greed-driven Pedophile Hysteria - The Abuse Team member who notified ponderosa121 of her suspension? Scott, the same Scott who informed me my 14-year-old Sam getting jacked off by his 18-year-old brother Dean story is "not in violation of the LiveJournal Terms of Service." -
- florahart: FINE. How do we move without losing our community? - I'm thinking maybe we can use things like comms and fests that already exist here to help ourselves orient elsewhere, by perhaps using LJ mainly to link offsite. -
- morgandawn: LJ Taking The Delete Key To The Next Level - this should be obvious, but when LJ deletes your account, not only is your LJ gone, but any post you ever made anywhere (along with any comments etc). -
- xanphibian: WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK - This is, according to them, about children. Except the piece of art they cite as the reason ponderosa121 was suspended HAS NO CHILDREN IN IT -
- deirdre_c: Adventures of a Vidding Neophyte - I just posted my first fanvid on Monday. And I had some thinky (heh. I accidentally typed 'kinky') thoughts about the whole experience of jumping into a brand new medium just four short weeks ago. -
- kangeiko: Lesson the First - Fool me once...I AM CALLING FOR 6A/LJ TO OFFER THE 'REFUND' OPTION TO ALL PAID AND PERMANENT ACCOUNT HOLDERS THAT WANT TO LEAVE AS A RESULT OF THIS LATEST RUN-AROUND.
- shusu: LJ: hey guys. you probably should read that last refrain. - That lovely quote of Them coming for everyone but Me. That's now. That's what it looks like. They don't round up everyone on the block and march them off, guys. They pick one or two or three because someone above them said, look what we'll do to you. -
- mamadeb: Oh, dear. Not again. - As for those moving - why? Do you really think that the other social interactive sites are immune? Do you really think that Warner Brothers/Scholastic won't contact GJ or IJ or whoever with the same demands? -
- musesfool: here comes your nineteenth nervous breakdown - I don't like to be treated badly by companies I give money to for service. Sometimes *cough*TimeWarnerCable*cough* I don't have much choice because they have a near monopoly in my area. But here I do have a choice, and eventually, I'm going to exercise it -
- elynross: About the latest LJ suspensions/deletions - I think that synecodochic's post is extremely relevant, in that it points out that what we, as fans, may know or presume or intend is not necessarily going to carry across outside the fannish context, and isn't necessarily going to carry across that conte -
- liz_marcs: And So It Begins...Again. (The new 6A/LJ journal deletions) - People were calling me (and others like me) hysterical drama queens after the dust of the Great LJ Strikeout of 2007 settled and we were still bitching.[...]Sheeyah. Right. I told you so. -
- atrata: [in fandom_flies] For a variety of reasons, I think it is - For a variety of reasons, I think it is time to start talking very seriously about fandom's exodus from LJ. This is a discussion predicated on the fact that many of us feel that the time has come to leave, but we have concerns about doing so. -
- elke_tanzer: Boldthrough07, aka Dammit, LJ/6A, What The Hell Are You Thinking? - The essential roundup of links to discussions, refugee sites, backup strategies, discussions, on the Crisis of the Day -
- huzzlewhat: It's good to be insane... - I think that LJ made a better apology than I expected to get from them, and the reinstatement of the fannish LJ's is a good thing. But I want to keep my options open, and see how things shake out. -
- karamarie_mckay: Greetings,I know everyone else has alrea - câ™mon, folks â“ whatâ™s the argument, here? That individuals can define words in any way that they wish, and once theyâ™ve stated their personal definition of whatever word, no one has the right to feel offended or hurt about their use of it? -
- cluegirl: Okay. My opinion. - Now the cry of 'Get Whitey' is being picked up by people who just want something to shout about. I have no more patience with that than I do with the people who looted electronics and jewelry after the Katrina floods -- they're opportunistic scavengers -
- jetamors: untitled - But I was in HP fandom for two years, and I've always had an open friending policy. They weren't on my flist--but they easily could have been. -
- mskatej: Itâ™s supposed to be a journey. - Itâ™s okay to realise that some of your attitudes need readjusting, and then to go on and readjust those attitudes. // Itâ™s more than okay. Itâ™s essential. -
- erestor: Racism, bread and circuses... - If ... you're a member of this community, disagreeing with the goings-on, then SPEAK UP, dammit! You're ashamed of the way moderators and fellow members behave and pat each other on their backs for being gits? DELETE that bloody thing from your f-list! -
- teh_no: Why? Because I'm curious, that's why. - What's most likely to make you read a fic? [POLL] -
- fandebate_mod: [In fandebate] Gender and Fan Studies (Round Eight, Part Two): Abigail Derecho and Christian McCrea - Derecho: In Round Three, Part One, Robin Reid wrote, "nobody's mentioning 'race,' ethnicity, sexuality, not even as an 'academic' project or area of analysis." I'd like to investigate these topics within fandom from an autobiographical perspective -
- fandebate_mod: [In fandebate] Gender and Fan Studies (Round Eight, Part One): Abigail Derecho and Christian McCrea - Derecho: I'd like to address gender bias in the media industry, in "mainstream fan" writing about media, and in academic writing about media. I'll give an example of bias in each of these fields: -
- e_m_pink: MISCE MISCE MISCE MISCEGENATION - What really got under my skin about this wank was how everyone (as always!) seemed to keep going on about how witchqueen was 'purposely hurtful' and 'not respectful' and 'calling people racist' -
- coffeeandink: Daily Deviant Followup - I feel tired and discouraged and taken for a fool for believing the apology was honestly meant, and ashamed of myself because I wonder if I bought it so easily because I wanted the fuss to be over with so I didn't have to deal with the drain of arguing -
- auctasinistra: A poll (no wankiness here) - To me, in the context of fandom/fanfic/fanart, "kink" means: -
- paradox_dragon: Relationships Between White Allies and People of Color: Thoughts and Questions - I noticed after I posted a recent denouncement of the daily_deviant mods' use of [m]iscegenation that my tone was rather more immoderate than that of many of the PoC[...]I also noticed than many criticisms of them were based on the "tone" of their argumen -
- lennoxmacbeth: Proud Graduate of FU - There's something to be said about having a spine and being willing and able to stand your ground. What is it with being so damned afraid of what people think of your opinion lately? DO NOT apologize because you have an opinion -
- tielan: two sad things about the race meta going on - Rather than take a look at themselves, examine their work, examine their mentality, examine their assumptions, most people prefer to point the finger at the person bringing the issue to them. "Not my fault but yours!" -
- wistfuljane: Fandom, I don't understand you sometimes. - I see such similarities between the Cassandra Claire situation and daily_deviant situation[...]So like with the Cassandra Claire situation, I do wonder if some people are only digging their heel here because they are irrationally afraid of losing their c -
- fandrogyny: Using "big words": DD, race, meta - This is what I mean when I say self policing. The response to the DD debacle sprang up organically. It required very little "official" organization, just a little word of mouth in the right places. -
- shaggydogstail: Racism and Nice White Girls - There's a false syllogism at play here. Good people don't use racist words, therefore if a good person uses a word, it can't be racist, right? //Wrong, but I was guilty of it too. -
- bad_goth: Guess what's not awesome? It rhymes with "macism." - when I posted a statement saying thanks for apologizing, but too little, too late - would never join your community now that I know no fans of color or anti-racist fans can ever truly be welcomed, my comment was deleted and I was hit with the bannination -
- inusaga: akarii made me do it! - To sum up, I don't like being jerked around so I have big qualms with jerking around others. That's why I will never post a story as a WIP -
- akarii: Why I Like The WIP - Life - To know that someone is depending on me to continue my story, however, serves as a motivation to get my lazy ass off my fainting couch and step to. It is an obligation of honour to finish what I started, and to finish it in a rather timely fashion. -
- jadesfire2808: [in torchwood_meta] Meta: Beta Reading - I'm starting from a point where I have regular, knowledgeable betas, who can be absolutely honest with me, and always are. This, to me, is ideal, even when they disagree. -
- witchqueen: Point of Information - To any daily_deviant member who is neither a mod nor one of the authors or artists who posted with the miscegenation tag and did not remove it after receiving my e-mail://I did not call you a racist. -
- lipsum: Dear fandom, please rediscover the word "controversy". - Here in fandom we are so used to fighting over stupid things (MY PAIRING IS BETTER THAN YOURS OMG YOU ARE OPPRESSING ME WITH YOUR OTHER-PAIRING SQUEE!) that we have forgotten that there are other terms for passionate discussion besides "wank". -
- witchqueen: A few more things - I didn't speak up to get on some sort of crusade. I spoke up because I live here. FIAWOL. I need this to be a place where I'm not randomly thrown up against a wall and gutpunched. -
- ficangel: My last real word on the racism wank, or on all of fandom's recent racism wanks, really. - there are all these posts around saying 'Well done' to the DD mods for finally issuing a retraction and an apology, and I'm sorry, but I can't do that. You don't get credit for finally acting with the kind of baseline human decency that they should have s -
- fandom_me: Meta - People like to say they want more con-crit, but I wonder sometimes if they have any idea how to get it or what to do with it once they've got it. So, a bit of advice from someone who used to cry at even the gentlest criticism. -
- lottelita: What's censorship got to do with it? - for witchqueen to "censor" anybody, she would have to have the power of suppression or deletion over them. Last I checked, she is not a moderator of daily_deviant, nor a member of the LJ Abuse team, nor an official of any government with jurisdiction ove -
- laurashapiro: A couple of links, and the inevitable response to the HP/DD/racism event - One of the best things to happen in fandom is that FOC are increasingly visible. FOC are meeting other FOC and allies, finding people they can hang out with who are not going to need to be beaten with the cluestick (or at least not as often) -
- cnary_crem_dght: On Irish Tenant Rights. (no, not really) - the whole D_D debacle makes me wish to be clear on some points, as I was one of the ones with the tags on my art.//I have since rectified this on my own accord and I think the way that I was approached caused me hesitance -
- twilightsorcery: On the current DD wank - It's that lack of context that does it: because of the style in which we report monthly kinks, it's just a heavily loaded word hanging out there, with nothing to say "we don't support that kind of shit, and we'll come down on you if you try anything racist -
- greenspine: racism - And in the end? I now understand that the connotative meaning of that word is not agreed upon by everyone, and in the future would use it accordingly. However, I fully support the mods and do not think the tag should be removed. -
- wickedwords: Sidebar to the word discussion - I keep tripping over all of the comments that say that racism has nothing to do with HP, yet that's a core theme of the book. -
- nardasarmy: My racism. Let me show you it. - I'm going to remember the names of those in fandom who support this ignorance (and I have an incredibly long memory,) and they'll find no welcome or opportunity in my fannish endeavors and I'll not support theirs - not through feedback, nor membership, he -
- merryish: more on the HP race discussion - A challenge called "homosexuality" is no more offensive than a challenge about "inter-racial sex" would be. But a challenge about "miscegenation" is the same as a challenge about "faggots". That's the choice you're making. That's the choice everyone is up -
- mecurtin: White privilege in your town and fandom - Think about where you've lived, fellow USans. Think about the racial mix in the area. -
- coniraya: I thought I was done.... - Dear Fandom,//Why are you allowed to complain about the tiniest flaw in characterization loud and at length yet when we talk about racism it's automatically wank? -
- robin_anne_reid: Miscegenation Debate in HP fandom - White supremacist and other hate groups exist, and are a concern, but they are not the only face of racism. // The other faces are perfectly well meaning people (usually but not always white) who do not realize the history of language. -
- morgan32: I can't just stay in lurker-mode for this one. - Sometimes I think we're over-sensitive about racism in fandom. This is not one of those times -
- revelininsanity: After a half hour reading posts on the DD mods, racism and the Harry Potter community - It's sad that it took soemthing this bloody ignorant to make it happen, but now that it has, it's amazing to watch, and heartening, as well.//People are yelling their heads off at racism, starting online. People are educating each other. -
- loneraven: Race and ethnicity in fandom, and actually, real life as well - I'm Asian. I'm Indian. In all my time in fandom, I've only ever met two other fannish Indian people, and one of them I knew for many years before I ever found out she was fannish. And where are Indian people in fannish media? There, er, aren't any. -
- mimi_sardinia: DL;DR or Oh look! I'm writing meta! - DL;DR is useless after the fact. The fic is already read, there's no use telling the depressed and annoyed reader "Don't like? Don't read!" because they can't unread the fic. DL;DR only works if the reader has had warning beforehand -
- lipsum: Now I'm just reposting the comment I left on witchqueen's journal. - So I thought my place in all this was to listen and learn and not speak unless I'm really sure I'm not acting out my privilege. -
- narahttbbs: Saying stupid things about race - I don't really want to say lots of naive things and have other people have to waste time correcting me. I would be happy to simply listen and learn, in fact, but that seems to rather go counter to the whole idea of a discussion. -
- d_d_mods: [in daily_deviant] Admin Post - We have removed the tag 'miscegenation' from our community and list of themes, and presently ask all writers and artists who used this term to remove it from the headers of their posts. We acknowledge that this term is hurtful, and we sincerely apologise for any offence it has caused.-
- seperis: admin post from daily-deviant; interracial as a kink? really? - I seriously, seriously do not like the idea of interracial as a kink in fandom. I just don't. As a general fic topic--got it. Kink. Associating that with interracial relationships feels wrong. -
- cold_poet: If you've been around at all you know how I abhor wank. - That's what I tell my 10 year old when he's whining about wanting a cookie. Not something you tell someone who says "that is horribly offensive and racist and I thought you should know so you can not use that specific word and instead find a better way to -
- rushthatspeaks: *headdesk* - The correct word is xenophilia, sometimes abbreviated to xeno. [...] This is a good term to use when discussing work involving humans and nonhuman sapients. -
- oyceter: Where is your line? (HP wankery) - So I ask people, particularly those who stayed in the comm through all this, the people who joined the comm during this, and the people who defended it: where is your line when it comes to racism? And I am not asking this as a rhetorical question. -
- elke_tanzer: *steps right the hell into the fray* - This is my fight. This is my fandom (OK, one of many, but still). Fandom is my culture. LiveJournal is my neighborhood. And I'll be damned if I'll stand silent while someone perpetuates racism and hurtfulness -
- cmshaw: For crying out loud, people - Which of the following are useful immediate responses to the statement that something is racist? -
- fan_eunice: A whine and a question. - What do you love best about vids and/or vidding? If you are a vidder, what do you want to work on most this year as you make new vids? -
- heyiya: Race and textual authority (or, dictionaries lie); and a small dose of naive optimism for dessert - There are certain dominant assumptions that have to be challenged every time one of these fannish race discussions comes up, and one of them seems to be especially well highlighted by this debate. That's the question of objectivity and cultural authority. -
- dragonscholar: [in fanthropology] Fandom religion, politics, triablism, totems. - It suggests to me that a core element of shipping wars is usually a form of tribal identity - the ship is symbolic of, and a rallying point for, the establishment of identity. -
- beccaelizabeth: Why this stuff matters - The way we look at the world around us and try and turn it into stories, use narrative as a tool to predict and explain, look at the world and think it *means something* - that's human. -
- starkeymonster: Racism Really Harshes my Squee - It is hard to be excited about cute boy kissing when I also learn that fellow fans don't consider me to be fully human and worthy of consideration. It's hard to talk meta with someone who thinks being upset about racism makes me unworthy of respect. -
- amireal: Because you don't seem to be hearing it yet. - There's a few interesting things I've seen going around about the whole HP/racism debate.//1. OMG witchqueen CALLED ME A RACIST!//No. I'm fairly sure she didn't. In fact she went out of her way to NOT assume that the word was used with its proper context -
- starrylizard: Constructive criticism for fan vids - Take into account the vidder's level of skill. If it's their first vid, they'd likely benefit from some pointers, but be sure to encourage them as well. We've all been there once. Also take into account the software they're using and whether what you're s -
- rosiew: I had a whole entry about leaving fandom - I'm a fangirl, it's what I am, it's what I do. My emails, my phone conversations, my instant messaging, my messages, my computer time, dinner conversation, rl conversation - it's all ties in together[...]//So HOW do you just leave fandom? -
- brown_betty: This is not directed at you. Unless it's directed at you. - Perhaps it would make it easier for me to own up to my behaviour if it were brought to my attention in a way that didn't cause me distress. However, it is no one's obligation to make it easy for me to not be racist. -
- theantijoss: It may be another spammy day. - The confusing thing is, I've also read meta that says 1.) it's offensive to ask someone to check your work for racial sensitivity, and 2.) it's as offensive for a white person to decide suddenly to write characters of color as it is not to write them at a -
- witchqueen: Dog Whistles and Insults ETA - Some people feel that I was unnecessarily inflammatory by using the n-word several times in explaining why what the [info]daily_deviant mods did was wrong, although they never used terminology equally as inflammatory (on the surface.) -
- witchqueen: Dog Whistles and Insults ETA II - People are perfectly within their rights to be mad, and I encourage them to tell me and the rest of fandom that they are mad and exactly why; the solution to speech with which one disagrees is more speech. -
- liviapenn: An apology and retraction from the d_d mods - Speaking as someone who has modded large lists and comms before, I empathize with how hard it is to admit you were wrong, in public, about an important issue. This should not have taken as long as it did, or been so hard to accomplish-- but I do appreciate their willingness to rethink the issue. -
- denied_heaven: Sometimes, you just have to say something - And I understand that at times, you just want to shake your head at all the fic out there that isn't perfect or up to your standards,[...]But having an entire com devoted to 'bad' btvs fic with links and quotes from the fic.. is it just me or is it taking -
- xanzpet: Enough Bullshit - Here's the bottom line: if you don't like something, don't read it. You certainly shouldn't post it and detail the reasons you believe it to be dreadful. -
- witchqueen: Dog Whistles and Insults - One of the terms used this month was miscegenation [...]. Stories written in response to this theme included human/human, human/magical sapient (i.e. werewolf, house-elf), and human/goat. What follows are the e-mails we exchanged on the term. -
- ciderpress: we're in another universe. you're not in charge anymore. - Calling people on their racist words and racist actions is not wank. It simply is what it is -- it is to say, this is hurting me, this is not just, this is not by any definition righteous. -
- spiralsheep: In which our heroine suggests that some words are more equal than others - The reason why we sometimes hurt people when we confuse concepts such as race and species, or interracial sex and interspecies sex and bestiality, is because sometimes those mistakes have racist implications and reinforce harmful stereotypes. -
- darkrosetiger: Your kink is my life--and no, that's not okay. - The problem is that if that's true, then the appropriate response should be "I'm sorry; I didn't realize that was offensive, and I'll be more aware in the future." In fandom, though, there are a number of responses to "please don't use that racist languag -
- witchwillow: Of Death Eaters, Fans and Racism - I understand that as a kink community it can be all too easy to want to substitute one thing for another, for something that makes them as mods less likely to go 'eeeewh' etc. // But they weren't asked to change the kink prompt. -
- annavtree: the way things seem - I understand that the community doesn't want to put limits on what members can imagine, that it strives to be a place of no judgment. However, 'miscegenation' is a word of judgment. -
- celandineb: On racism... *rolls up sleeves* - If the mods of the community agreed to remove this prompt (a bit late in any case, as a number of members chose to use it), that would be censorship. There's been a lot of talk lately about LJ potentially censoring fandom, with most of the fic-writing com -
- neverneverfic: Fandom, why must you be so racist? - What the fuck fandom? I believe we've been over this before When someone says "that is offensive to me" the appropriate response is NEVER "i didn't mean to offend so you need to alter your feelings about it" -
- kita0610: Say what now? - I am absolutely sure the mods at this HP comm didn't know that. Their goal was probably (I am guessing) to have artists render human/magical species work (Harry/House Elf, Hermoine/Unicorn, whatever). -
- darkrosetiger: Daily Deviant: For the FAIL - Summary: You're so mean! How dare you tell us that using a racist term is racist! -
- faraday: Bullying - You know, when I worked at a high school back in 1990 that was based near a rather large Aboriginal community, we had a rather interesting incident happen. -
- elynross: wtf. I mean, really, wtf. - but to throw those in someone's face as "proof" that they're wrong about what a word means connotationally, to ignore the historical and emotional baggage of a term, to deny words the power they have to carry a whole history of denigration and servitude a -
- oulangi: Fandom is all fun and games until someone uses the "N" word. - It was a word specifically coined to spread racial hate and fear. The "genus" is meant to emphasize and lend a scientific credence to the racist idea that there are "distinct biological differences between whites and non-whites". Offensive, yes? -
- telesilla: These are simple people. The common clay. You know...morons. - However, even the porn industry, for all it's devil-may-care, "we're only in it for the dough" attitude, doesn't equate the interracial kink with the bestiality kink. And even they know not to use "miscegenation" in the place of "interracial. -
- fan_eunice: Ten/Rose...it's like B/A...sort of - Ten/Rose has become this weird mirror to the way I experienced Bjavascript:swap("dw")/A.[...]And it all comes down to two things the way we talk about things in fandom affecting the way we watch, and my absolute loathing of Soulmates 4Evah 'shipping. -
- laurashapiro: Rambly fannish thoughts: Doctor Who, DS, erotic dynamics - I've been reading a bit of Doctor Who fic lately, the first time I've really invested myself in reading fic since my whirlwind Farscape obsession three years ago. My last serious fic fandom was Due South, and I keep bumping up against certain parallels. -
- trinityofone: The first step. - Everyone makes mistakes, and everyone has subconscious prejudices/biases or areas of history or issues about which they're simply ignorant. EVERYONE. It doesn't make you a bad person. What matters is how you react when you're called on a mistake. -
- thebratqueen: Oh for... - As a friendly tip: read the links you're using as your fact-checking sources[...]Wikipedia's entry takes all of two sentences before stating "Today, the term 'miscegenation' in English-speaking countries is often a loaded word and is by many considered of -
- angiepen: An Official Assumption - OK, at this point I'm just officially assuming that any writer of multi-part stories who hasn't done something to make it easy for other people to nominate said multi-part stories for awards doesn't want their stories nominated. -
- merryish: If you're looking for some stupid... - It's...a community. That's why you have to type < lj COMM > to make the tag for it. When you are part of a community, you accept that your right to freedom of expression ends where another person's right not to be hurt by you begins. It's how we keep from -
- isiscolo: Isis's guide to recording awesome podfic - The downside of the recent explosion of podfic is that there is an awful lot of poorly-done podfic out there now. I was going to rant about it, but actually, I don't want to make readers feel bad about it - I want them to improve their recordings! -
- annavtree: Sorry to stop the free flow of squee. It will resume shortly. - So, please, daily_deviant mods, feel free to call me an oversensitive person of color or wank seeking (despite not posting about this publicly until after you all forced this issue public and the fact that I am not a person of color) or whatever you want -
- jennem: Dear Fandom, - Several intelligent, well respected members of fandom brought up the fact that they had never 1) heard the term miscegenation, and 2) had no inkling that it was racist[...]So, it appears that fandom is in need of a quick, compressed history lesson. -
- jacquez: Fandom, Racism, and Me. - I didn't know that racism also hurts me and other white people like me, the people in power.[...]Except it does. It makes me smaller. Unless I do something about it, racism's structure in this country makes me part of the problem, and I don't want to be p -
- tzikeh: Miscegen Nation - If anyone has lied about anything that daily_deviant, or its users, did, I've yet to see it.//Here are a few more words the Admins might want to look up: Cut. Your. Losses. -
- bethbethbeth: witchqueen made a post about racism and - The truth is that apart from experiencing a feeling of vague discomfort when I read the word, I didn't react strongly to its use in the headers of fic/art posts and I didn't raise any official objection. This was a mistake -
- teh_no: Miscegenation - words having power in fandom is nothing new. It's not rape, it's non-con. It's not child porn, it's chan. It's not incest, it's Wincest ...]So while we may be obliged to tolerate the content of a story, there's nothing that says we need to tolerate what i -
- ficbyzee: Lately, I've tried to distance myself from race meta in fandom - It's become pretty clear to me that there *is* no proper tone that can be used while talking about race. No amount of politeness or coyness will actually make people listen, so fuck it. -
- kindkit: entitlement? - Criticizing the source text is not (necessarily) fannish entitlement, all right? -
- shay_renoylds: In relation to witchqueen's post - But guess what happens if those words ARE changed right away -- they get swept under the rug and people suddenly ignore the issue like it never happened. I don't, personally, agree with the lack of action but I stand by their decision to keep their own wo -
- seperis: does this say something about education? - I get the entire 'do not want to censor or whatever' except I honestly *don't* in this case. This is not a test case for the fucking Supreme Court; no one is rioting, threatening, or trying to restrict your free speech, laws will not be passed or overturn -
- coffeeandink: Harry Potter and the Racist Daily Deviant Moderators - Even aside from the loadedness of equating interracial and interspecies sex, the term "miscegenation" is generally considered offensive because it has historically been used[...]with the implication that the white partner was "polluted" by the "bestial na -
- thelastgoodname: So I had heard the argument about marrying your dog - I knew that there were people out there who thought legalizing gay marriage would eventually lead to people wanting to marry their dogs or something [...]But now I find that this dog-marrying thing can arise from straight relationships, too -
- lavvyan: Slash and Emotions - yes, fanfiction is all about making things happen that obviously wouldn't happen on screen, but it's still nice to have the characters we fell in love with like, you know, actually stay in character. -
- rahirah: Cakeus interruptus - Throwing a fit about a bad review is not going to make the people who don't like the story like it any better. If the story actually has problems, it's not going to make the problems go away. -
- yeloson: The problem isn't that we're offended - When you think you have the right to insult people with words, images, or stereotypes that HAVE killed people, and that taking it away is some kind of hassle, that's white supremacy -
- etrangere: Ooops, racism - No, I am not saying that you should bow and let anyone who pulls a "Racist!" card get their way, but you should seriously consider your own prejudices. Because it's likely you have some, and no, it's not going to kill you to admit it, rectify, appology. -
- poisontaster: I bit my tongue until it bled - We are responsible for the words that we use. It doesn't always matter if we intended to give offense or not. The moral culpability may be different, but the end result is the same. -
- rivkat: HP, encyclopedias, etc. - Daily Deviant prompt was selected from an encyclopedia "of sex-themed words." It seems unlikely to me that the definition therein included sex between humans and "magical creatures." So the policy of the community is not "we won't alter prompts." -
- flamewarrior: Clueless white people - I've seen a couple of posts around which are fics or art using the daily_deviant prompt of "miscegenation". When I saw them, I blinked, thought, "No, surely not," and dismissed it from my mind. As an ally to People of Colour, I have failed to the n-th deg -
- solvent90: just when I think I've run out of obvious to state - So. Have you got that? Jo Rowling, bless her, has apparently written racism out of the world - not just the modern world, but the history of the world, so that the term "miscegenation" has none of its historical weight. -
- elynross: Words, Power, Freedom, and Responsibility - It seems almost invariable: every time issues of racism and sexism come up in fandom, eventually someone picks up and waves the flag of FREEDOM OF SPEECH and cries CENSORSHIP. -
- mamadeb: Words, you see, do hurt - I don't understand how people at this point in our history could think such things are acceptable, or that protesting such things are censorship. -
- drelmo: I Don't Have an Answer - Does the underclass have the unchecked power to designate offensive terms? 'Cause, I think, most of the educated white people I know,[...]would tend to think you're an idiot if you start complaining that the use of the word niggardly was racist -
- lamardeuse: I don't have much to add - - That's why the term "miscegenation" is a little fraught, historically and in the present, for people of colour. -
- jonquil: Verbal Self-Defense: How to Lose - Thinking about racism makes me feel shame. That's because racism is ugly, and because my people (and I) have been complicit in that ugliness. However, when I feel shame, that doesn't make the person who upset me wrong. -
- amireal: This is why you cannot simply remove the word from its origins... - Just because the dictionary doesn't give you a long and thorough treatise of a word's colloquial and cultural meaning doesn't mean it doesn't exist and isn't relevant. Go ahead and ask me where my horns are. -
- emmagrant01: Just because I'm curious - Do you consider what JKR says in interviews to be canon? -
- capncosmo: Should have been Thursday. - So that there can be no confusion as to my thesis: Pushing close friends into romantic relationships in fanon is typically something to which I am very opposed. -
- southernbangel: To trust a flock or not, that is the question - the issue, which so many on the "Cult of Nice" side don't see, or don't want to see, is that a member of <lj user=badbuffyfic>, a members-only community with all flocked posts, deliberately, willfully and maliciously broke the flock -
- melpemone: RPS and the Conflicted Fangirl: An Essay. Kinda. - RPS does not horrify me in and of itself. It is, in fact, an extension of my all-consuming embarrassment squick. -
- penknife: At least there's not a comic book series yet - As far as I'm concerned, there's canon and then there's supplemental canon, which is interesting to play with but not essential. [POSSIBLE DH SPOILERS IN COMMENTS] -
- inlovewithnight: Fannish structures and organization - I haven't been in fandom long at all, about four years, and still, the way fandom structures itself has changed so much. There's a lot more focus now on organizing things, indexing, making it easy to locate a given fic, type of fic, person, etc. -
- vassilissa: InsaneJournal - A lot of my net-friends are migrating there, or at least using the site as a back-up for their LiveJournal account. I will not be doing either, wherever fandom ends up. I'm not omg leaving fandom!!1, I'll go where you guys go... but I'm not going there. -
- fan_eunice: I sneeze, therefore I meta - It's sort of amazing to me how hypersensitized hanging out in fandom can make people to one aspect of a show/movie/book (especially 'ships or characters that provoke strong reactions), often completely out of proportion to the actual amount of time devote -
- wickedelf: LJ Black Out - It's funny, because I get the opinion that the problem LJ repeatedly has, is that they have a bunch of techs and geeks. Which is great, but there is a reason techs and geeks are stereotypically BAD at communication -
- beccaelizabeth: I just read thru metafandom a thing wher - Why not get emotional? Isn't emotion just as important as reason? Because otherwise we're talking Cyberman territory, and really, not good. -
- blpurdom: JK Rowling and the Splintered Audience (LONG) - For the first time in a very long while, JK Rowling has done what Dickens did, what the Brothers Grimm did, what even Ed Sullivan did: she has united huge numbers of people in enjoying the entertainment she has created [NO SPOILERS] -
- emmagrant01: More DH reflectionsHow long should we warn for DH spoilers? [SPOILERS FOR DH]
- yourlibrarian: How often do you read fanfic? - I thought I'd do a survey and ask people how often they think they read fic and what kinds they read. -
- stop_him: Maybe If You Cried More... - But I don't think, no matter how much you repeat that this or that depiction of women is offensive to you, that it will ever matter that much to the fanboys. -
- cmshaw: Crossing the streams: How to comment on other journal sites - With people going off in every direction, here is something you can do if you don't want to start piling up accounts on every lj clone out there: use OpenID. -
- likeadeuce: XMM Ficathon assignments + ficathon wishlist - On a related but different note -- I'm curious about what fic exchanges you would like to see. I don't know that I'll be running another one soon, but I'm a big believer in ficathons as a way to challenge writers and increase fandom participation. -
- fandrogyny: Let's go North. - In attempting to "clarify" policies, LJ/6A has only made their priorities clear: they are comfortable with any content, so long as the judgement of that content is in their hands, and the tools used for that judgement can be as murky, shady, and slippery -
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fanficrants: No love for authors. - You're entitled to your opinion about the composer of a fictional work, but if you're playing in that composer's sandbox, with their characters and their plotlines, then surely, they've managed to do at least something with their lives that passes for dec -- alyburns: My opinion only on the continued LJ saga with - running to a new journal site is NOT the solution. This issue will NEVER go away - it will follow us wherever we go. So what's the answer?//Fight it here and now. -
- shay_renoylds: Copyright; Fan Intent and Retextualization - the new legal term (related and under fair use provisions) of importance allows the âœ. . . formal legal landscape [to be] more favorable to fans than it was nine years ago, as courts have been more willing to protect âœtransformativeâ unauthorized us -
- wakarinikui: Poll on LJ - Under what circumstances would you leave LJ? -
- lovessacrifice: Son of a... - So yeah, if you get banned here and you have a RPG account here too, all your old stuff is going to be ruined. -
- calathea: Tattoos and BFFs, Oh My - When I think about the BFF pairs that I slash, they are all unusually open about their friendships -- to the point where I wonder sometimes whether the reason I like them so much because they have slipped into more female signals and behaviours around fri -
- scheherezhad: untitled - I like to see them vulnerable. I like to see them tough and jaded. And yeah, I like the sex, even the non-con or painful or just plain awful kinds, because I can angst for my boys that much harder. -
- astolat: well, that's great - I mean, is LJ now allowing copyright holders to force takedowns of negative reviews? -
- worldserpent: LJ user suspended for being a "serial copyright violator" - Since LJ is not in the business of judging whether something is definitely a violation of copyright or not, isn't this in effect just saying that all complaints are valid, if they punish users for receiving three of them? -
- stewardess: Good news! LiveJournal will review our posted fanfiction and tell us if it is okay! - Six Apart is still on an ongoing witch-hunt at the behest of Warriors For Innocence, who are anti-immigrant, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-abortion scumbags. -
- telesilla: Thanks to a mistake with a time travel spell and a Polyjuice potion.... - I don't know if everyone feels this way, but for me, it's not a personal issue, but a consumer one and like every consumer issue it comes down to this: I'm not well off at all and what little money I can spend on things like LJ needs to be spent wisely. -
- ratcreature: a question of spoiler etiquette on social bookmarking sites - I know some people subscribe to del.icio.us feeds or just browse there, and it's not like I can spoiler cut. [POLL] -
- seperis: in which i randomly attack a well-loved trope - Unless your character canonically has no other possible skills up to and including the ability to use a spatula at McDonalds, maybe most of them *might* choose to not sell their asses (or other sexually-charged body parts) for money. I know, crazy thought -
- oulangi: Journalfen Concerns - Ultimately each person has to decide what is more important: ...rebuilding their communities where the principles of acceptance and openness are actually believed in vs. staying ...knowing that some (most?) of your friends are perceived as icky nuisances -
- violet_quill: LJ Craziness Take Three - In my opinion, [burr86] did more by way of "clarifying" in a paragraph comment than in that entire new page-long post in [info]lj_biz yesterday. -
- aubrem: clicky! - I find that the casual form conveys nuances of emotion/body language that I'm not sure how to get across in more formal language. // I'm wondering if there are any holdouts - anyone who gets annoyed at the sentence fragments, punctuation abuse, etc. -
- sprat: Nothing to do with Harry Potter (um, except in a tangential, non-spoilery way) - Our brains are weird, weird places, but at least we all have that in common. Knowing that helps. Talking about it helps. When somebody threatens our ability to do that, it is a big deal--even if the threat wasn't aimed at me or you or anybody on my friend -
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