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NM ([info]narcissam) wrote,
@ 2008-09-23 13:11:00


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Declaration of Conversion
George R.R. Martin.... oh my God, this man can write.

I've been putting off reading his books because they're long and take lots of investment, unlike the cheap hilarious romance novels that I brightened my summer with, but I picked up "A Game of Thrones" the other day, and I'm now almost finished "A Clash of Kings" and I've bought the next two. They are brilliant, but if you've already read them you'll know that. If you haven't, go read them.

I wasn't quite sure what to expect, because I'd heard they were dark, and 'dark' in fannish terms passes for 'lots of blood and sex and weird religion.' A lot of fantasy authors try to be 'dark' just for the hell of it, and they don't build up very believable societies around those three themes. Martin's definitely dark, plus he's got the blood and the sex and the weird religion, but he also knows what he's doing.

What really stood out for *me* was that the deaths seemed quite clearly telegraphed, chapters in advance, in contrast to other people who'd told me the deaths of characters were surprising and shocking. But then I noticed that in reading Martin, I'd very quickly switched my genre expectations from High Fantasy to Medieval Saga. That the book "A Game of Thrones" most reminded me of was Njal's Saga, with its huge cast of characters, caught up in war and revenge, and never escaping impending doom.

So. Jon Snow's mother. By the end of the first book, I thought I'd got it, and the theory still stands as of Book II. He's the son of Leanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, I'm pretty darn sure.


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[info]waltraute
2008-09-23 09:12 pm UTC (link)
I read the first...three? got kinda bored, decided it would be worth reading again when more of them were done. But yeah on the deaths--I thought they were pretty obvious. My main problem was that I was getting bored waiting for some parts of the plot to get attention, and I'm wondering what the genre shift will be when the shit comes down from the North and smashes everyone playing court politics.

And I found Daenerys obnoxious beyond redemption.

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[info]lady7jane
2008-09-24 12:43 am UTC (link)
I think I convinced myself that Jon was Lyanna's son during Ned's hallucination scene, where he's remembering how he and his posse faced against the three Kingsguard knights in the middle of nowhere. (Oh, I love that chapter so much.)

If you get bored waiting for the remaining books (I think the fifth one should be coming out next spring, but who the hell knows. It's been pushed back a few times already), there're also two short stories set in the Westeros world: The Sworn Sword and The Hedge Knight. Very good reads, both of them.

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[info]julianrain
2008-11-07 09:27 pm UTC (link)
The L + R = J theory is pretty convincing in fact the evidence for it is overwhelming.

The only thing that stops me from buying it completely is that fact that Jon doesn't display any Targaryen traits at all. He doesn't seem to have anything of Rhaegar or any generic Targaryen in either his looks, his behavior or his abilities.

In short he seems all Wolf and no Dragon.

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[info]narcissam
2008-12-16 08:13 am UTC (link)
Late, very late, but I have to say. Maybe it's like those Snape/Lily fics where Harry starts growing a hooked nose and greasy hair at age sixteen, and Dumbledore says, "Oh, you were magicked to look like James. Surprise."

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