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This post has been edited to remove my personal post - I doubt my ramblings are why you're here.

OK well then.

For the past several months several people on my flist have noted similarities between Phoenix and Thorn_star. Comparisons were being drawn between them with increased frequency, and the anecdotal belief that they were one and the same was rising. I decided to compile his posts so that accurate picture could be drawn.

I compiled the following links because people kept seeing resemblances between Thorn_star and phoenix. It is not intended to be definitive but a tool for people who were already having this discussion to use. I did very little actual analysis of the data – in fact the report is unfinished. I intended to make an equally exhaustive link compilation of surviving phoenix posts so an accurate comparison could then be made.

I didn't accuse thorn_star of harrassing me. I do think he's phoenix - or his seperated at birth twin. I didn't ask him to be banned.



Notable public posts about [info]thorn_star
The phoenix IP posting on fw_debate 2004-07-22
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fw_debate/1095.html?thread=63815#t63815
Anon suggests [info]thorn_star is a sock:
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44418239#t44418239

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3 His journal exchange with [info]anatsuno
http://www.journalfen.net/users/Thorn_star/765.html?thread=509#t509


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3 2004-12-19 we_wank exchange with [info]oulangi
http://www.journalfen.net/community/we_wank/9355.html?thread=192907#t192907

1 2004-07-03 we_wank OP to F_W Posted of FW with nothing but links to other wanks. ALSO claimed IP’s don’t match in two posts he wasn’t OP IN. Sooo how’d he know?
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/453512.html

28 2004-12-14 we_wank OP = comments to we_wank “I seem to have upset wankprophet”
http://www.journalfen.net/community/we_wank/9132.html


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6 [info]fw_debate “who should be mod” exchange with Hotpinkdragons, Backfromspace eljuno and pyratjenni
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fw_debate/3227.html?thread=215963#t215963

2 2004-10-20 [info]fw_debate “FW has been placed on moderated posting” exchange with osteria
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fw_debate/2807.html?thread=140535#t140535


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7 2004-12-14 [info]fandom_wank Ms. A wank “shouldn’t this be on dl_anon?” exchange with bartle_by, wankprphet and nonny_mouse
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/577870.html?thread=49286734#t49286734

11 2004-12-13 [info]fandom_wank JKR wank this one’s interesting in that [info]thorn_star tries to stay on topic – so far this is the *only* series of posts he’s made that aren’t related to the extended cabal conspiracy / oppression. I think he’s trying to make friends here – but ends up wanking with an anonymouse over the literary merit of Harry Potter.
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/577531.html?thread=49152507#t49152507

10 2004-10-21 [info]fandom_wank OP reporting quibbler’s report that fandom_wank is taking a poll to have new mods
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html

exchange with [info]funkyhelix
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44250559#t44250559

exchange with [info]ashenmote (missing comment from Ashenmote: “Now look - this time you have been first!”)
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44358847#t44358847

exchange with [info]bubosquared
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44514751#t44514751

mini exchange with [info]flutterg
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44254655#t44254655

mini exchange with [info]oulangi
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44319167#t44319167

mini exchange with [info]isbobhereyet – noteworthy for snark of her being a “cheap date”
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44330943#t44330943

exchange with sneaky anon – an IP check would be helpful here
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542655.html?thread=44482239#t44482239


2 2004-10-21 [info]fandom_wank “Author is turned down by sugarquill” [info]thorn_star seems to think there’s some “conspiracy” on why there isn’t more sugar quill wank posted. Exchange with [info]livingadream and [info]pyratejenni
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542898.html?thread=44292274#t44292274

5 2004-10-20 [info]fandom_wank Sep’s post on Fandomquibbler that [info]thorn_star is convinced was picked over his because of Sep’s ebil cabal connections – I thought [info]thorn_star bitched more about this?
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542045.html

Paranoia / martyrdom:
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542045.html?thread=44107613#t44107613
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542045.html?thread=44110429#t44110429

exchange with [info]osteria:
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/542045.html?thread=44107357#t44107357">we_wank</a> OP = comments to we_wank “I seem to have upset wankprophet”
http://www.journalfen.net/community/we_wank/9132.html


6 [info]fw_debate “who should be mod” exchange with [info]hotpinkdragons, [info]backfromspace [info]eljuno and [info]pyratjenni
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fw_debate/3227.html?thread=215963#t215963

2 2004-10-20 [info]fw_debate “FW has been placed on moderated posting” exchange with [info]osteria
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fw_debate/2807.html?thread=140535#t140535

phoenix was convinced of his Uber-intelligence. So is [info]thorn_star.
phoenix and [info]thorn_star are obsessed with "DeleteGate"
[info]thorn_star - POST
phoenix and [info]thorn_star are both from the same fandom; Harry Potter
[info]thorn_star on Sugar Quill

They have the same friends

[info]thorn_star created his journal : 2004-07-02
Before the deletion but during the height of phoenix's idiot / nonsensical posts - remember those really buh? posts he was making? Like "Headless Chicken screams fowl?" and that weird Sagralisse thing?

Their idea of humor is identical. Both "misunderstand" (I assume it's intentional - I may be giving them both too much credit) and offer up a quip (again, what passes for one in Phoenixverse)

phoenix[here]

[info]thorn_star [here]

Judging from his posts times (PST) he's either working the night shift in Aruba Anonymizer) or, yanno at a normal time in Europe.
03:39 am (PST) or 11:39am (Ireland)
05:02 am (PST) - 1:02 pm (Ireland)
00:57 am (PST) - 08:57 am (Ireland)
Some more in PST - so +8 for W. Europe
03:39
00:57
09:50

some off peaks - 1:45 am and 3:24 am respectively
17:24
13:45

Similar writing styles - specifically the rhythm & punctuation - and I think thorn_star is *trying* to sound American - uses "dude" but slips on little things:

Compare some [info]thorn_star selections:

The in-fighting on the CC thread is just mesmerizing! I know some of the 'members' posting are FA people and/or CC's friends that are only showing up to defend CC and haven't posted regularly since 'Deletegate', but still! I wonder if there's a little bit of 'Deletegate'/Mockitymock bitterness showing? Just a thought. However, it also seems like there's some begrudgery about too which is kinda sad.

On the issue being discussed, I can understand all reasonable points being made by both sides. Ah, who cares, they're all big boys and girls and there's nothing like FA vs F_W for entertainment. Carry on! {from here]

...continue your efforts at mastering the '2 times' math tables! the rhythm is wrong. It should be something closer to this: your effort to master / the multiplication tables. The British call it maths - he'd know that and remove the 's', but fucked up because we don’t call it a math table.

To some examples of know phoenix writing:

That made me laugh! I'm sure you can work out why! Now what about the bit where the fake-Cheneys/Sharptons/Coulters show up arguing with themselves? Or the part where they're subsequently blamed for everything from teenage acne to zebra foot-rot? XD

Right, back to my studies! [from here]

Aw, it's nice to know you still have those special feelings for me! Be home soon, babe. I'll try not to work too late tonight. Make sure you have my slippers and pipe ready! [from here]

I'm sorry if I got your knickers in a twist but I was only pointing out the obvious. I know you're trying to rise me with the above but I'm not interested!

I think that's pretty damned interesting -
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