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Pan ([info]panthea) wrote,
@ 2008-05-31 17:41:00


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For the record. For whatever the record is worth.
I agree with [info]t_boy here.

I don't know if that matters, or anyone cares, but I'm curious whether most people don't. Agree with him, I mean. And as another Fandom Wank Muslim (we should have a list! and our own tired old in-joke!), I wonder if somehow neither of us got the memo that Islamist is the same as Muslim. Hell, I used to get pissed off when people said Islamist because that's not the correct term, until I picked up on the implied distinction. (And it totally makes sense! Muslim are followers of Islam, Islamists use Islam. One's about God and one's about politics.)

So there. If he's wrong, we're both wrong.

EDIT: Okay, so I finished actually reading the thread (I, um, thought it ended with the [info]ealusaid exchange? and didn't notice all the other comments?) and I'm not quite sure what I'm agreeing with him about anymore. I thought the disagreement was over whether Islamist is a slur against all Muslims? And I don't think it is. THERE, I'VE SAID IT.

it's hard being me. shut up.


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[info]rotten_fish
2008-06-01 01:14 am UTC (link)
As far as I read - and it wasn't far - they didn't know he was Muslim and they took at as a slur. I don't know, man, he dug himself into a hole by being really angry. I think they then objected to him making it about Islamists when, you know, death threats work are something lots of groups/persons have done. If you know what I mean. They haven't got a patent, so it seemed grating to the others he brought them up? Idk, I don't really know much about the religion, and my eyeballs kept sliding off the page at their angry. Idk, idk.

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[info]panthea
2008-06-01 04:56 am UTC (link)
I think they then objected to him making it about Islamists when, you know, death threats work are something lots of groups/persons have done.

Yeah, that was the part that prompted my edit; that's a valid objection and I don't think I'm with him there. But I will totally defend "Islamist" as a legitimate term until someone provides a convincing reason not to.

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