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ruaki ([info]ruaki) wrote,
@ 2006-10-28 00:55:00


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ToA Replay Log #3
Lots of speculation and Taking Fandom Seriously.



Feeling the money shortage. ;_; Even with Lawman (since I don't have the TLP fully set up yet, it's cheaper to use Lawman than Emperor's Best Friend) and Cat Cat Kitty Cat.

MASTER VAN MASTER VAN MASTER VAN GODDAMMIT SHUT UP ABOUT HIM ALREADY LUKE GEEZUS

"Luke Learned SONIC THRUST".
Stupid yaoi fangirls.
I didn't catch that as a ... euphemism the first time. XD;
Jon did the moment I started snickering and going, 'stupid fangirls' though.
I think he's worse than I am. XD;

You know the skit with Guy asking Luke about his memories when they first enter Choral Castle? And Luke just dismisses the fact that he doesn't remember and Guy's like 'I'm surprised.'
... And I'm like, 'uh, aren't you the one that harps him about your bet?' So the skit seems a little out of place/context when you realize about the bet later on...

Er, hm. XD; You know, when I first played, Choral Castle was a REAL pain. Now that I knew what to do, the puzzle went so quick!

The scene with Guy seriously freaking out still touches me. Poor kid.
So is the scene with Jade getting extremely nervous and worried about the machine.
... those two are totally going drinking together later on, I bet. ♥ I hope porn ensues. XD

Forgot that Luke didn't realize Guy's family was dead. ^^;

DIST DAHLING. ♥
God. Sync's VA. Shot. NOW. PLZ.

Knowing what was actually going on with the story, this scene also made a lot more sense.

I still love the scene where Guy lays the smackdown on Sync. And he's like 'it's you!' and Sync's probably making kissy faces at him or something. XD;

Uhm. Arietta was a lot easier than I remember. XD; Maybe cause I had Jon playing Luke...

Uhm. Sword Dancer was a lot easier than I remember. And I didn't even face it now in my first game, but when you come back to head to Akzeriuth later. Uh. Wow. XD; Well, the AD Skills probably helped and the 2x XP... and I had Jon playing Luke while I played Jade and gave commands to Tear and Anise... but yeah. Totally bitch OWNED.

Guy: "I'm glad you're you."
His comment about how Luke changed really makes me wonder.
I bet the Luke before probably actually thought of Guy as a servant.
Although I sometimes wonder about that, since I think the Luke before was highly independent, given his thoughts on how he wanted to reform Kimlasca with Natalia--I mean, god, he was like, around ten then or something! So he had to be extremely intelligent and very firm in his convictions. "I don't need a servant to tie my shoes. I need someone I can talk to as a person without rank or barrier."

I don't think the Luke before was a horrible person, given all things... how he wanted stuff to change, and especially how he felt about the Score. I don't think he would've viewed Guy as a servant, but I don't have any doubt he may have possibly treated Guy like one...?

Hm. Not sure where I'm going with those thoughts...

So, Jon was there for the scene where Luke's hyperresonance first reacts? Yanno? With Master Badtouch? And he and I BOTH DIED LAUGHING SO HARD because honestly, it's the most gayest thing I've EVER seen in a video game EVER. Even IN context it sounds gay, and it doesn't help that Van's VA really, ah, caresses the words.

God, I love Jade. "Oh, you got me. I thought it might be amusing." He's such an ASS. It's LOVE.

Made SURE to do the Ant Lion Man this time. >.< I'm NOT missing out on the sidequests linked through him!

You know, knowing what I know, I had a feeling that Sync was ordered to target Guy specifically. Since, yanno, how the curse slot works and some people would be privy to just why Guy would be the best candidate. why are you torturing your one true love like that? why?

Okay, for my reference:
Isofons = perfect duplicates (same fon frequency and everything)
Fomicry = makes replicas (just copies/imitations) but not capable of making isofons

And yes, Lorelei's fon frequency is... pi. GO YOU. I have to wonder how many takes it took Mr. Thornton to rattle off those numbers so smoothly and without hesitation though?

Stupid robot. XD I love it when it jumps ship. WTF, really.

DIST~ God, I love his crazy laugh there. And him and Jade are SO crazy. XD Jade's voice drips so much sarcasm here that I think I'm falling in love with with Mr. Thornton's amazing self all over again. Jade must SERIOUSLY be a frustrating friend. I think Peony's about the only one that can handle him right. is this why peony's the ultimate seme of toa, next to master badtouch?

Cecille! I'm totally NOT missing that subquest this time. =O I had a feeling that's where 'Cecil' came from when I first played, but it feels good to know I was right.

Guy's cute when he clicks his heels.

Okay, Jade thinking Pere is familiar has to make me wonder.
Wouldn't it be neat if young!Jade did go to Hod (and that's how he recognized the Shield)? ... heee, I think that just opened up a few more possibilities for a certain ship...

Hahahaha, I do like Natalia. Her and Guy are totally cute and if I wasn't so hot for... well, Guy with everyone else, I'd totally ship them madly.

Man, the skit about the sword in the palour? I didn't watch Guy's various facial reactions while Tear was talking the first time, but yeah. Did this time. His eyes go wide and then sad as she mentions it. I don't think he was actually present for the... ah... 'homecoming,' but I SWEAR I get the image that Duke Fabre kept the skull up on display. I mean, to actually display the sword is freaking horrible enough...

Although, I suppose you can say the Duke keeps the sword up as a reminder? That it was so horrible that this is a momento to say 'never again' rather than a 'trophy of victory'? I'd like to think the Duke is compassionate like that--that he did what he did in accordance with the Score and thus feels true remorse and regret for what happened...

... dammit, I think I missed Tear's maid costume again!

I noticed this before, but I wanted to make a note of it now:
In Guy and Pere's room:
Guy's side is completely covered with fontech. What a geek. We know what he does when he's not being molested by Master Badtouch or molesting Luke during his off time.
But you'll also notice that above his bed, the pennant--for House Fabre, presumably?--is folded over, while on Pere's side, it's not. HMMMM
Also, Pere really loves flowers. I bet he always has. That'd be awesome.

Luke's room is all by its lonesome. =O And that huge ass portrait of Master Van on his wall. bet he jerks off to it every night XD;;;

Guy lounges in his room the morning after, whining about the work load left behind cause he had to go searching for Luke.

... wait, what does Guy do then?! I thought he was a baby-sitter. ^^;

Wait, hang on, lemme put Luke in his princely outfit before we meet the King. =D

"You become a lot more cooperative when Van is involved." Oh Jade. *touches nose*

Why did they have to tell him about that prophecy? Luke does NOT need any bigger of a head than he's already got. =.=

This whole scene with Master Badtouch screams so much emotional blackmail and scarring and GOD, this pairing is just Not Right. =.= Oh Luke.

I STILL say they should've kept the use of Van in the party as 'Warrior of Love.'

"So that leaves me with the cold woman and the woman hater."
"Hey! Don't give people the wrong impression! I love women!" ... methinks Guy doth protest a bit much. ♥

And quit.



Man, I've been craving sweets a lot lately.

.. and honestly, Peony/Jade has like, the best fanart.

Although these have GOT to be the cutest artworks EVER for Abyss. ZOMG. They so make me smile. (And there's some spoilers, so be careful!) But they feature all the cast and it's just so fluffy friendship and funny and YES. (I love the one with Guy running from this huge line of the female cast, and Jade's like, all walking like a flaming queen in the back and Asch is all /an, 'wtf are you doing?!' ... while stepping on Luke.) ... I also love #25, but it's a total spoiler. XD


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[info]wodhaund
2006-10-28 05:42 am UTC (link)
I think you and Jon are due for more cookies.

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[info]ixtab
2006-10-28 12:57 pm UTC (link)
Haha, the Cecille and Frings sidequest made me SO MAD later on. "I did all those fetch quests to set you people up and then you go and--!" ;P At least Guy gets a nice outfit at the end of it, though I guess it's sort of creepy when you think what it is...

I agree with you on Sync's VA. Ugh god shut uuuup. It's really too bad, 'cause from the JP clips I've seen, Ikue Ohtani actually sounded nice as those characters. Even if it makes me envision a scene of them all going "pikapika" at each other.

As for Master Badtouch, yeah, that scene was really. Yeah. I was cracking up and cringing at the same time. XD;; (And that's when I knew his what his TRUE TITLE had to be.) I think you're right, a lot of it is the VA sounding inordinately... uh, pleased with the situation.

...but I somehow didn't pick up on the Sonic Thrust thing. I guess I have to go turn in my fangirl license now. :D

warrior of love WTF. WARRIOR OF INAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING MORE LIKE

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 09:58 pm UTC (link)
... well, I have no idea what happens in the quest, but I do know that it's pretty sad because yeah, of what happens... still though. I wanna do it. =O

It's not even the voice that sounds bad--it's the complete inability to ACT. I do like how Sync sounds a bit more manly than his Japanese seiyuu though, but GOD. He can't ACT!

Jon DIED. He really just DIED at that. I don't blame him cause it was just awful. His VA totally had fun, I think. XD;;; Course, now it makes me think of Master Glen from Suikoden 4 as a bit of a badtouch too... XD;;;

Yes, AI NO SENSHI. Honestly, Namdai! Wtf!

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 08:39 pm UTC (link)
I do not understand how #25 is a spoiler! I suppose that's good...

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 09:52 pm UTC (link)
Namely because of who is in it.

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 09:52 pm UTC (link)
*CLUELESS* :D

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 09:58 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I know. XD;;; *being specifically vague* You'll probably find out soon enough if you end up playing tomorrow. XD;

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 09:59 pm UTC (link)
AND I WILL or something. I played a little today, got Jade and Guy in my party and now I'm headed to Daath if I don't get hopelessly lost.

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Aw, that means that you got Luke back.

I love his short hair look. CHICKEN!

Aren't the scenes with him and Guy upon their reunite so sweet?

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 10:25 pm UTC (link)
His short hair look is SUCH the shota, man. Nobody can resist that face. Nobody. Especially Guy ♥ The scenes made me bubble over with Guy-and-Luke love.

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stupid sent the message early
[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 10:30 pm UTC (link)
Yes. XD;;;; Thus why fanart where Luke looks like he's twelve years old zomgwtf. (With abs of steel, wut)

Yes. For him to wait there. Ahn~ I know I definitely decided I liked the coupling then. (It keeps getting better too zomg. XD; Course, the way Jade and Guy freely banter with each other makes me wonder what's going on while Luke's trying to decide his sexuality once he's away from Master Badtouch.)

Although, what'd you think about Guy's relatively cold treatment toward Asch?

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 10:39 pm UTC (link)
He looks 12 ingame, man! Even in the skits with his angry face, he looks like he's 12 and angry with Master Badtouch Daddy for withholding dessert or something.

I squeed when I saw Guy waiting there. I was just like, OH GUY. And. Yeah. (They're, uh, merely showing Luke that it's a-okay to like boys? Or sarcastic old queens, at least.)

Hmm... Honestly--I didn't think much about it at the time. I think part of it might be the entire Asch-trying-to-kill-Luke from the moment he saw him as cause for the coldness, but knowing this game there's probably something else behind it.

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 10:44 pm UTC (link)
Hahahaha. So, what, now he looks like he's seven instead? Man, I wanna be a replica too, if it means I can just cut my hair and the years just fly off my face!

Yes. I hearted too. And Luke was just so... touched. It was darling. And the little pep talks afterwards cause Guy's totally emphatic and had a pretty good idea of what was going through Luke's head.

I was just wondering. It's pretty obvious that he and Natalia are at odds about Asch. She's quick to accept him as 'Luke' while it looks like Guy isn't--even though they knew each other long ago. But considering that Guy isn't the type to be cold even to people he disagrees with (ie, Jade), the fact that he's curt with Asch says a lot. So I was just curious as to what you thought.

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let's just get to the real point of the comment eh
[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 10:47 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm.. you're completely right about that, but I think part of Guy's cold shoulder might come from having spent the last seven years with his Luke. He's very obviously partial to the spoiled one and I think he probably knows more than Natalia about the kidnapping and Luke's 'memory loss', so he might've known all along that there wasn't really anything for Luke to remember and thus couldn't have been hurt by it the way Natalia was.

God, she's such an annoying bitch >_>;;

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Re: let's just get to the real point of the comment eh
[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 11:18 pm UTC (link)
*nodnodnod* That's partially what I figure too--I think he didn't appreciate the fact that people were quick to accept Asch as 'Luke' when his Luke has had seven years of memories shared with both Guy and Natalia.

I don't think Guy really knew about the circumstances of Luke's memory loss nor the fact that Luke wasn't Luke. I think he may have suspected something wasn't right--his comments about 'Luke being different' and 'I'm glad you're you' says as much, but I don't think he knew that his Luke was a replica.

But I'm not sure. He's never surprised by much in the game, so sometimes I do wonder. XD But I always got the feeling that he's just as perceptive as Jade anyway...

Hahahaha. I like Natalia, but I was pretty annoyed how quickly she dismissed Luke for Asch. But I guess if she's been hung up on 'Luke' all this time...?

personally i think she should dump mr. grumpy for guy but that's just me

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Memories and probably a good amount of fucking or at least more relationship than it seems like Asch and Guy had before. Ash was a child, and Guy probably would've been more of a servant than a friend, so it's easy to understand why Guy bonded with his Luke more than the past one. Teenaged boys bond with one another better than younger boys; it's the period when girls become scary because they're getting different. Most of the stories you hear about boys and girls really bonding are when they're young, before puberty or right at it, and I think all of that plays into the different relationships. Plus the fact that Natalia was heavily basing her and Luke's closeness on something that Luke couldn't even remember, instead of trying to become close with him again, probably crippled their relationship from the start.

So perhaps he suspected something all along and this just confirmed it for him XD So any hurt he might've had was probably gone by then. And Natalia saw it as, oh, she knew something was wrong and this was the real Luke, so of course she was ready to accept that. It was her story-book love come back.

Me and Booty are having fun ranting about how much we hate Natalia ♥ We think she should jump off a cliff and let the boys fuck each other ♥♥♥♥♥

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 11:41 pm UTC (link)
HAHAHHAHAAHA, I knew you had to bring up the experimental play and/or fucking that probably happened. XD

But yes. I definitely believe that Asch was highly independent as a child (given his views on how things should be governed, etc. etc)--Guy was a servant, but he wasn't needy for Guy like Luke probably was.

There's another reason why Guy bonded with his Luke so well, but it's a subquest to find out. =O Don't miss it. It has like, one of the slashiest moments in the game. XD

And you make a good point about the ages. That's probably why Natalia and Asch got along so well--beyond the rank thing.

Well any hurt he might have had is gone, but he's definitely pretty cold to Asch--especially considering they're meant to at least be servant and lord and like I said... even to people who mistreat him or people he disagrees with, he isn't outright mean or rude. But he's definitely cold and curt to Asch. (I mean, he's not even mean to Natalia for abandoning Luke!)

=O Maybe he's bitter that Asch left him for Master Badtouch? why no, i don't also ship guy with asch, why do you ask...

... hahahaha, poor Natalia. I use her in battle though.

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-28 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Well, it's just how boys are! And I can't decide if it happened or not, it's really all dependent on whether Asch saw it within his rights to use Guy that way or not. He never would've said a single word, if not, and if so it most def. happened.

You tell me that there is a side quest but give me no hints on how/where to get it? THANKS ;o; C'mon, Roo, you know I'm clueless!

Maybe he tried to do experimenting when they were younger and Asch rejected it. I really can't see the reasoning that 'Everyone tries it at some point' or 'It feels good' would work on Asch, and Guy doesn't really have any other reasoning than those.. XD It also might be bitterness toward Asch for leaving him in the dark about it for seven years. I certainly think it was a shitty thing to do.

And leaving him with Van, of course. There's also the possibility that Guy's rather bitter toward Van, and finally gets to take it out and takes it out on Asch since Asch is Van's subordinate.

Booty and I really, really don't like the archetype she is.... it's like, okay miss future ruler, you're ready to think of your subjects? Then how about staying home. Not only are you taking yourself out of harm's way, but you're also avoiding another possible way to start war (Ion is bad enough) AND you're probably learning more abour ruling with reason rather than just bullying everyone into doing what you want to do.

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-29 12:00 am UTC (link)
Well, for the sidequest, just make sure you talk to Pere whenever you can. =X It's very easy to miss, but unfortunately, it's pretty a pretty important thing for Guy & Luke's relationship. plus, it allows you to use brilliant overlord

I... don't think Guy would've done anything to Asch--at least, on Guy's own initiative. Probably cause of how I think he and Asch's relationship were. I think Asch would've told him something like, 'I don't need a slave. Either be a companion and share what you think or be in the background. I don't need you, but you can be here if you want to be.' And Guy would've chosen to be in the background. If anything happened, I think Asch would've had to have started it. Or for it to be entirely mutual.

Luke's an entirely different matter, and that's because he had no memory so Guy essentially got the job of raising him... I can see those two experimenting.

I ... don't think Guy's bitter toward Van... for what reason? other than luke and asch stole master badtouch's attention?

Not only are you taking yourself out of harm's way, but you're also avoiding another possible way to start war

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Oh man. XD;

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-29 12:13 am UTC (link)
I shall, then :X

Mmmmmm, Guy/Luke. One half of a Luke sammich, and such a good half ♥

Well, Van is the one who pretty much made Luke destroy Ak..that city, yanno. Yeah, Luke did it by choice. Yeah, Luke made some bad decisions in keeping it a secret. But in the end, I think Guy understands more than anyone else precisely why Luke was so easy for Van to manipulate and feels partially responsible. He's not the free-thinking spirit Asch is, that's for damn sure.


?... What's funny about that? XD;

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[info]ruaki
2006-10-29 12:20 am UTC (link)
Yup, that's why Guy admits to feeling responsibility for how Luke turned out--and why Van had it easy in manipulating him. Because he raised him. I mean, look at how indulgent Guy is toward everything Luke does. So he feels responsible. (I wonder how much of it was intentional though...) Guy rebuked Luke at Akzeriuth by not actually blaming him for the incident, but just wanting him to stop with the excuses. (And then forgave him cause Guy's like that. XD He realized Luke knew he did something wrong. I think Tear said it best--Luke feels the extreme in emotions. ... probably because he is a child, in a way...)

But! I ... don't think he blamed Van for making Luke do what he did though...
Probably because... ...

It's funny because you have no idea how pertinent that statement is. XD;

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Oh yah.
[info]ruaki
2006-10-28 11:50 pm UTC (link)
I was looking at pics last night and saw these and it just made me think of you for some reason. I guess cause it'd be something I'd want to show you.

I also found the artist that did that picture of Guy and Luke that you showed me that you got off 4ch a while back. XD I was really surprised by who it was who did it considering she usually doesn't do yaoi.

Anyhoo:
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/endou3/abisu.kiss20.1.htm
http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/endou3/abisu.kiss20.2.htm

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Re: Oh yah.
[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-29 12:10 am UTC (link)
You can show me anyyyyything, you know I'm easy when it comes to good art (she says as she's sharing hot porn with booty, mm.)

Er... which Guy/Luke pic? I have... a good many guy/luke pics. The one that's Guy leaning over and--? Yes?

Those are pretty hot *_*

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Re: Oh yah.
[info]ruaki
2006-10-29 12:16 am UTC (link)
Yes, it was that one. Done by the artist of Plaines, no less. She does fantastic work, but she usually sticks with het couplings, which surprised me to see her do that. XD

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[info]kkscatnip
2006-10-29 12:18 am UTC (link)
It's the hottest ToA porn I've found so far, and if it weren't for that masturbation pic it'd be the hottest one on my HD. But, alas.

Knowing their relationship and personalities only makes it hotter, too *_____*

It always amazes me how you can identify artists like that so quickly. There doesn't seem to be anything about the pic that's distinctive, to my eye, but to you~ You know exactly who it is.

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