Snarl

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:01:46 GMT

You know, the more I play and study Go, and the more I read fandom_wank, the more I'm tempted to start commenting on the "play" of various wanks and discussion-of-wanks. You know, "aaah... good sente there, but can he connect?", that sort of shit.

Which brings me to the inevitable conclusion that the reason we don't go commenting on wank that appears on FW is not so much that it stirs up shit (though it does), or that it's lame (though it is), it's because it's always a totally dame move.

[ETA: dame has a lot of meanings, even in Go, but a "dame move" is colloquially a worthless one, that doesn't count as territory for either side. In other words, a dame move doesn't have a point and doesn't accomplish anything. KIND OF LIKE DEFENDING FANDOM_WANK'S HONOR.]

Ranting about the F_W deletion

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Thu, 24 Jun 2004 18:00:11 GMT

Because God knows you're all entitled to my opinion.

You know, here's my issue with the whole deletion: the mods and their friends think F_W has gone to shit. The mods and their friends have mockitymock.

Don't like F_W anymore? Don't think it's funny enough? Stop reading, stay in mockitymock, have your refuge of pure, gleaming wit and utter brilliance.

The end.

Vocal minorities who think the quality of their groups - for just about any definition of that word, online or off - has declined and become a "cesspit" never, ever manage to "salvage" the group, because they're minorities. Sometimes they start successful spin-off niche groups, but they can never bring back "the good old days", if the "good old days" ever really existed outside their heads.

This shit happens everywhere. Fucking everywhere human beings interact and don't have a vested (read: economic) interest in making sure things function smoothly. I think it's accelerated online, but it happens everywhere - I've seen it happen to anime clubs, to RL writing groups, to LARPs, I've seen it happen to Linux usergroups, my mother's fucking garden club and knitting group and one of her choruses. I've seen it happen to MUSHes and MUDs online, to LJ communities galore, to mailing lists of all stripes, to message boards, to fucking internet Go servers - and for the most part, Go players are about the most polite, good-natured, intelligent, drama-free group I've ever encountered, online or off. It's universal. It's just part and parcel of how human beings interact.

Whether or not you're "right" about F_W going to shit (I think everyone is idealizing the past), you're in the minority, and any attempt to "fix" it is just going to exacerbate the problem. Because this isn't really about phoenix or any of the out and out egregious trolls - if it was, you could have just asked Zorro to find out his IP address and ban him. It was about "we don't like the majority of the people in F_W anymore", as far as I can tell.

No mod action can undo a demographic change. Sorry. Not even Republican jerrymandering can pull that shit off in the long term. Communities are made up of people, and short of turning F_W into mockitymock you will never have the old F_W back again. Ever.

It's not just wanky to try, it's kind of delusional.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:32:59 GMT

In lieu of commentary on the wank: Look, Raist, hot chicks!

Why, yes, I AM posting for the benefit of exactly one person on my flist.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:15:06 GMT

Random Word HELL sneaks out a scaley hand and grabs phoenix!
A sudden roar sounds from the depths of Random Word HELL as it expells Hugo
Weaving.
snarl !!!!
mooncalf mmmm.
snarl says, "Not literally, one hopes."
snarl says, "I mean, oh, /Hugo/."
mooncalf remarks, "No, see, Phoenix went up in HELL's flames and was reborn as Hugo Weaving."
mooncalf divulges, "Totally a good trade."

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:37:52 GMT

I'm betting this is going to get wanky just as soon as the het fans find it.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Fri, 21 May 2004 02:41:00 GMT

ATTENTION FANGIRLS:

ROLEPLAYING IS NO BIG FUCKING DEAL.

Also, "good RPer" is not, repeat, not, a measure of worth.

Luv,
Snarl, Bayushi Flamewarrior 2 / Soshi Hacker 4

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Wed, 12 May 2004 17:30:23 GMT

Okay, who thinks we need a fandom_wank_wank?

Or just "wank"? Solve all the "nooo, this should be in otf_wank!" "no, i_wank" crap.

Behold my Hida O-Ushi icon. Love her. Fear her. She has a hammer.

I am a burning cauldron of hate

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Wed, 12 May 2004 03:00:03 GMT

One more little "yaoi/slash = GAY RIGHTS" fangirl pops up with "bondage" or "bloodlust" in her interest list, I swear I'm going to hunt her down, put her in agura, do about five rows of 14gauges on her back, cork 'em, and then flog her over them until she cries.

Get out of my sexual orientation, you're making us look stupid.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Fri, 07 May 2004 04:32:31 GMT

Dear Fandom:

It's a hobby. You don't have to take it seriously if you don't want to. There's nothing wrong with tossing off fanfic as easily as wiping your ass. Oh, sure, using netspeak and proper prose still means you have the education of a baboon, and having fits of apopletic rage because someone criticized your nine hundred page epic Mary Sue still means you need a nice lie down, but over all we're allowed not to take our hobbies seriously. It does not make us lesser people, frivolous wretches who don't appreciate our own artistic talents, or wankers. It just makes us, you know, people trying to have fun.

THE PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC HAS GONE TOO FAR.

Luv,

Snarl.

GIP

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Fri, 07 May 2004 02:01:01 GMT

GIP. Go me. Because two in a week over on LJ would be lame, but I like showing off.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Sat, 01 May 2004 18:01:16 GMT

1) I need new icons.
2) I am going to start a new comm. I shall call it "whiny_rpers_suck", and it will be about mocking people who are overly emotionally invested in their lame hobby.*

Which would include me, but I have no emotions. HAH HAH FOOLED YOU ALL.

* No, make that two comms: whiny_rpers_suck and rant_rants.

[RANDOM: Also, "oh, hey, wow, that wound up scarring, didn't it?" is not really a conversation one should need to have with one's significant other. Nevertheless, I prevail.]

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Sat, 24 Apr 2004 05:55:18 GMT

I'm currently trying to convince a friend to become the graduate advisor to the new bondage club at her University, in response to the class she's taking where she's the only ~~human being~~ female AND queer AND under-30 AND unmarried AND non-Christian AND non-fundamentalist person in the class.

Me = ENABALOR.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:24:19 GMT

Dear Slash-Fandom-at-Large:

"Sub" is only used as an indicator of a person's relationship status with someone else in the heterosexual/pansexual contingent of SM players, and even then almost NEVER by people who are lifestyle/hardcore players of the type who have contracts, collars, and complicated protocols - or at least, if they use it, it's as an adjuct to other terms. It's basically an identity term, used for people (mostly women, for various feminist reasons) who enjoy submitting sexually, see this as a part of themselves, but are essentially keeping dominion over their own sexuality. Yes, people sometimes use the phrase "I'm so and so's sub", but it's almost exclusively in heterosexual or mostly heterosexual circles, and usually in a poly/switchy/multiple-relationships-other-than-primary context. If you identify as a "sub", you're basically saying you're in some way, shape or form a free agent in possession of your own submission, even if at the moment you're one with one dom who may also be your master. If the contract is torn up, the collar's unlocked, and you go through the SM equivalent of a messy divorce and never talk to the guy again, you're still a sub if you say you are. You're not a slave, or boy, or retainer, or whatever the heck you were in the contract, but if you still like submitting sexually, haven't turned switch, and want to take ownership of that term, you're still a sub. There's a reason they aren't called "sub contracts", people.

The gay male SM scene doesn't much use the term, and it certainly didn't twenty years ago. A man in a long-term, collared relationship to another man, if they're in the exclusively gay ale scene, may be a slave, may be a boy (and there are a multitude of meanings for that term), or he may be the goddamn family dog, but he's almost definitely not a sub.

If you're going to pride yourself on writing "accurate" and "realistic" "BDSM", and wank about how slash is "gay positive" or "subversive" on top of that, DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH and use the terms correctly. The gay male leather scene is not the pansexual BDSM scene, is not the straight D/s scene, is not the domestic discipline scene, is not the leatherdyke scene, and so on.

A subscription to Mr. S Dungeon is $7 a month, and a worthwhile resource if you don't actually live near a community of real, live gay leathermen who're nice enough to let you respectfully hang around the edges of their community.

In other words: if you're the kind of slash author who hates yaoi for its inauthenticity and not-real-man-ness, and pride yourself on using "real" terms like "BDSM", "safewords", and "sub" in the context of supposedly old school (read: pre-internet) gay male SM, BITCH DON'T FRONT.

love,

Snarl

P.S. Leo McGarry? NOT A TOP.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:21:28 GMT

If I hear one more "feminist" basically endorse fat-bashing if one of the parties is above a certain weight, I will hunt her down, go to her house, stuff a hose down her throat and force feed her lard until her stomach explodes.

A woman who "just has fat on her body" is probably far more a product of laziness, lack of excercise, a sedentary lifestyle, and really bad diet than an "indecently" obese woman over 270 pounds, who's much more likely to have seriously fucked up genes that probably preclude her from ever being even "normally fat".

Neither of them deserve this kind of prejudiced bullshit.

Public health issue, bitches. Public. Fucking. Health. Issue.

I recant.

snarling_fangirl@yahoo.com — Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:55:48 GMT

Once upon a time, I wrote a bitchy little list about things I hated in mainstream yaoi 'fic. In it was the self-lubricating anus, and general lack of buttsex clue.

After all, you see, I'd been fucked up the butt, and quite enjoyed it, and it sure didn't work like that for me. All this self-lubricating anus stuff was not only factually wrong, but it sort of killed the eroticism for me, the bits that made buttsex buttsex: after all, if I wanted to have sex with an orifice just like my vagina, I'd... have vaginal sex. Hence, I began to assume that self-lubricating anii were simply code for vaginas, written by dumb fangirls who have problems identifying with characters of their own gender due to inborn misogyny.

I still mostly believe that.

However, now that I have gotten in (heh heh heh) more to the other side of the real life buttsex, well... I'll just C&P what I said in this thread here:

You've never had a close encounter with a yuri fanboy.

You assume this why?

Yaoi fangirls have brought us the self-lubricating anii. Yuri fanboys have brought us penetrative breast sex, with a dickgirl shoving a penis into the breast through the nipple. (Well, at least the yaoi fangirls have a good chance of eventually having sex.)

Yeah, and inexperienced virgin het writers have brought us women giving birth through their butt, pleasurable hymen-tearing, and synchronous orgasms from missionary position sex.

Your point was what, again?

Virgins who've never had sex ed and aren't too smart tend to write stupid porn. Has nothing to do with their, uh, "porn gender" per se.

Also, I would like to state for the record (since my opinion has changed over time, as I once thought them laughable, code for vaginas, and missing the point of buttsex), as a dildo-packing domme who fucks both men and women up the butt with same and has to deal with the occasional cleanliness issue and a prohibitive lube budget, I WOULD KILL FOR SELF-LUBRICATING, ENDLESSLY-STRETCHING, MANCLIT-CONTAINING, NO-CONNECTION-TO-DEFECTATION ANII IN EVERY BUTT IN THE WORLD.

So, you know, it's entirely possibly that maybe, JUST MAYBE, some of the yaoi fangirls actually know what they're talking about and are just giving us their fantasies.

Now, granted, I really doubt it.

But amongst the hordes, I'm sure there are one or two with high cash expenditures on lube who'd really rather spend that $50 for two pump bottles of Maximus and a bunch of trick-in-a-bottle samples on, you know, a nice new cock or harness or vibe or a new pair of restraints or a flogger or cane or, you know, SOME kind of sex toy that KEEPS ITS VALUE.

Gosh. Was that TMI?

250ML Maximus lube pump bottle, Good Vibrations: $15.00
Black leather O-ring harness, Mr. S: $49.95
Tantus "Feeldoe" double-dildo, Madame S: $70.00
18oz ForPlay Adult Toy Cleanser, Blowfish: $13.95
Box of Trojan-ENZ condoms, Wal-Mart: $12.95
Box of $100 black dragon latex gloves, sized medium, Blowfish: $13.95
The ultimate point of reference/place of smackdown when it come to the writing of buttsex: Priceless.

Some things in life are priceless. For everything else, there's my boyfriend.