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Zachary Quinto ([info]zachary_q) wrote,
@ 2009-10-14 12:51:00


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Sometimes I forget there's a vanilla world. Until I'm reminded.
(public to Est members)
(Noah is Zach's dog, see icon)

I got into a bit of a sticky situation with a workout partner a couple days ago. I stretched (yoga) and winced, because it kind of pulled on a mark in an unusual place (just that I couldn't say I'd banged my knee). And it was on the tip of my tongue to explain it, when I remembered... he wouldn't have got it at all. I did manage to say it was a muscular twinge, and I think he believed me (well, at least the cops haven't turned up to check). But it's made me think.

So first of all, is there anyone out there who might want to join me for the working out? I think I've come to the conclusion that it'd be easier if all I had to do was mention it was from a scene. Especially yoga, but if you want to just go for a run (Noah is great, but he doesn't talk much) I'd be up for that too.

Second, because I've noticed some of these philosophical/life questions going around, what kind of things have hit you like that? What's reminded you, for good or bad, that things are different around here?


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[info]est_wenham
2009-10-14 03:19 am UTC (link)
Whereabouts do you live? I run every morning around West Hollywood, unless I'm spending the night elsewhere.

As for the second, I notice it more often with regards to polyamory/openness/what have you than with regards to kink specifically. It hits me, for example, when I have difficulty knowing how to describe the relationships in my life to family and non-Est friends. If I'm really excited about something that's happening in my life, but I can't put a particular label on the other person involved, it can be frustrating. Sure, you could pick a lover and call him "boyfriend," but then you might end up wanting to bring up someone else, and run into problems.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 06:43 am UTC (link)
Silverlake. I'll text you my address... we'll fix up a day that fits. Got early calls half the time. Not that I begrudge working. I actually love my job.

And yeah, that makes sense too. It can be very awkward negotiating who is what outside of the club in general.

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[info]lutz
2009-10-14 04:08 am UTC (link)
I know it gets kind of crowded and meat-markety sometimes, but have you tried the Est gym?

And uh, I guess I'm the wrong one to answer about your second question. My family's been Establishment members since the club was founded, you know? I probably would've just told the guy, and not realized 'til afterwards that it might freak him out. Which I guess I should probably work on.... Heh.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 06:46 am UTC (link)
I have, but it's the meat-markety part that somewhat puts me off. Like I'm expected to be on display for the voyeurs a little. There are times I'd rather not be. I don't know if it's because I went alone, though, will have to think on that.

*laughs* Straight vanilla guy, two kids, goes to church every Sunday? Not that I'm not straight or don't go to church, but you know there's a difference. I really wouldn't want to see his face when I explain that I get beaten up for pleasure by a certain lovely lady he has a bit of a crush on...

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[info]zoe_s
2009-10-14 10:19 am UTC (link)
Okay, WTF am I doing wrong that when I go to the Est gym it's anything but meat-markety? Maybe you should come work out with me? I put off repellent vibes in the Est gym, apparently.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 01:23 pm UTC (link)
Unfortunately you're probably going at the wrong time. Or the voyeurs who... would not be inclined to look at you are the ones there.

I will call you. I miss seeing you.

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[info]zoe_s
2009-10-14 01:29 pm UTC (link)
You've got my number.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 04:04 pm UTC (link)
In more than one way ;)

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[info]zoe_s
2009-10-14 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Now what is that supposed to mean?

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 04:10 pm UTC (link)
Just teasing. Sorry, I forget that sometimes it doesn't carry so well online.

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[info]zoe_s
2009-10-14 04:14 pm UTC (link)
It sounded flirty, was all.

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[info]shemar_moore
2009-10-14 09:56 pm UTC (link)
I'm in the gym quite a bit lately, but it's been fairly quiet when I'm there. I tend to go around the lunch hour, so maybe everyone's too busy eating? *grin* I can sure understand the meat-market thing though - although being a voyeur... Heh, I like to look but I don't like to be gawked at, how fucked up is that?

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[info]c_hemsworth
2009-10-14 04:32 am UTC (link)
Zach! Good to see you. Can't do anything now, but when I get back to LA, I'll call and we can go running, do the gym.

I don't think I'm built for yoga.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 06:48 am UTC (link)
Chris!

Good to see you too. And definitely! I miss seeing all of you. Well except Greg. I see him ;)

Somehow I can't imagine you on a yoga mat either ;)

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[info]est_misha
2009-10-14 06:31 am UTC (link)
I do yoga every morning when I'm in town--which at the moment is mostly weekends as I'm filming up in Vancouver. Either at my apartment or the gym, either is fine with me.

I believe you know my, uh, I guess boyfriend would be the term. And there, see? Running into that whole label thing. I'm not sure what to call him, but he's awesome. Milo Ventimiglia.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 06:59 am UTC (link)
I would love to. Weekends are good, as I so know how filming can be. It's not that much more relaxing when it's filming here.

Oh, you're that Misha *g* Yes, I've heard about you from Milo, all good, don't worry.

You're his Dom, right? I ask this because I have a sort of an etiquette question.

Locked to Misha

I'm writing a post that I'm locking down to my tightest filter. Milo's on it, naturally. I don't know if you have the kind of relationship where you would want or need to see it. So I guess, even though we don't know each other, would you mind if I put you on it? I don't expect you to say anything, just that I feel odd as you're a part of his life and can't see it. And no, it's not sexual. Well. Not in regards to Milo.

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[info]est_misha
2009-10-14 07:27 am UTC (link)
You prefer your apartment or mine? The gym *is* a bit of a meat market, yes. Not exactly conducive to meditation.

He talked about me? Sweet!

I'm his Dom--did he say that? I didn't know it was official, but okay. Ask away.

Locked to Zachary

That's fine with me. I bet the two of you are pretty close from working together--I'm definitely growing closer to Jared and Jensen and it's only been a year.

Yeah, I think I would have remembered if Milo had mentioned something sexual with you! Just so I know--how do you label yourself? I'm kind of newly bi, so I still think mostly like a straight guy. Mostly.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 08:08 am UTC (link)
Either's good for me. How do you feel about dog and cat hair? Might need to be yours if you have allergies or anything like that.

I don't know, it was more the implication of what he said. I could be wrong.

Locked to Misha

We have, yeah. He's a great guy. I know I don't need to tell you that :) But it's true.

Definitely not, and that's nothing against Milo. And that is the question. For now, straight... but that's kind of what the post's about. In part. It's... complicated. Yeah. Complicated. But I'm trying to work it out. That's the point of talking with people about it.

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[info]est_misha
2009-10-14 08:17 am UTC (link)
You're not wrong--I do dominate Milo. I just didn't think we'd done anything official like a collaring, so I don't know if I can really say I'm *his* dom. But feel free to ask an etiquette question anyway--I can answer from my perspective.

He's beyond great. Yeah. You can probably tell--I'm nuts about him.

Complicated . . . I've been there. Maybe it's not as complicated as you think it is. Or who knows, maybe it is. I'm trying to figure out something like that on my own end, both with my bisexuality and how I play. So I'd totally be up for talking to you about it.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 01:29 pm UTC (link)
Ah... well, I think I was using shorthand - it's easier to say you're his Dom than to say you're his boyfriend who dominates him when you play and much as I like big words, I also prefer to economise on their use when possible. The etiquette question was to ask if you'd be comfortable on the filter. Then again, Bridget's on it and we're... well. She's my Domme but we're not. Er. It's casual. But as it's come up in our play, I figured she'd like to know.

You know, I kind of got that you're nuts about Milo. So am I, in the platonic sense. I really want to see him happy. He seems happier since meeting you.

Oh it's complicated. It's not only the sex. If it was the sex it probably wouldn't be complicated. Well. Not exactly, anyway. There's a lot more to it. If it were simply a case of trying a different kind of sex, there wouldn't be a need for a filter.

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[info]est_misha
2009-10-15 02:54 am UTC (link)
Shorthand--got it. I understand now. It's just when you first said that, it made parts of me stand up and take notice. I kind of like the idea, although I don't know if Milo's ready to go there.

And I get it--Bridget's your Domme but you're not in any other kind of relationship with her. I have a slave, but I wouldn't call her my girlfriend. Maybe we'll get there, maybe not. We'll see.

He's happier? Good. Definitely good. I sure as hell am.

Yeah that sounds complicated. Just . . . maybe it's good to tell someone you're not as close to about it, get if off your chest, make some sense of it or something. Anyways, I'm here.

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[info]est_joshp
2009-10-14 02:57 pm UTC (link)
I'm not in town at the moment but when I get back, I'd be more than happy to join you in the torturous bending that is yoga.

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[info]zachary_q
2009-10-14 04:06 pm UTC (link)
I'll text you my number.

You're a member, I can trust you with my cell number :)

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[info]est_joshp
2009-10-14 07:47 pm UTC (link)
Okay sounds good.

And yes I a member. If it helps, Chris can vouch for me too. :)

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